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Sam Valenti IV
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Wed, 10 Apr 2002 05:05:41 -0400
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RE: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]
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I do think there is a strong connection to Dada and "IDM". The photomontage, a Dada medium in my opinion, is all about taking pieces of culture, some pop (K606) and some political (Ultra Red) and re-contextualizing them into something new that created another level of dialogue and meaning, if not multiple. Though there may not be a war which "IDM" hinges upon, but there is the same fascination for the bizarre, arguably more juvenile and adolescent, in this music. Dadaists wanted to screw with the European bourgeois notions of taste and class and I think certain "IDM" like the Tigerbeat camp intends to do the same to a mainstream, middle-class American pop culture system. And in regards to your statement about a lack of a Dada music, I think you can count the sound/tone poetry that Hugo Ball and co. performed at their Cabaret Voltaire happenings as such. The layering of nonsense words and sounds annoyed audiences the way that groups like Blechtum from Blechdom would do today if they had a larger, more conservative audience. We should be happy for camps like Tigerbeat6 and I think they will go down in the electronic music canon for their continued disdain for good taste and normalcy. People want to always label them and their peers as laptop "punks" but looking across different media, I think they are more Dada in their group mentality then anything else when compared historically. Sam Valenti IV Ghostly International
quoted 5 lines I don't think there's an equivalent to Dada in IDM. There never really>I don't think there's an equivalent to Dada in IDM. There never really >was such a thing as Dada music even while the Dadaist movement was active, >so it's difficult to draw comparisons. I think there are IDM related acts >like perhaps V/Vm who make allusions to Dada in their image, but musically >?
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