Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect.
Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 113 lines This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3
>
> This was from this album
> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd figure
>> out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much silence,
>> and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where the
>> beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns and
>> sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and paste-mix
>> other loops into the master mix.
>>
>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot
>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the
>> other options of the time, which were trackers.
>>
>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
>>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well
>>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and I
>>>> cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>>>> next measure.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the time
>>>> I was done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an
>>>>> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but I
>>>>>> enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects
>>>>>> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes
>>>>>> from playing bass through it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if
>>>>>> people use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing
>>>>>> with it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been
>>>>>>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a
>>>>>>> tragedy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>