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2006-07-25 04:54Zephyr [idm] What I think is funny.
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2006-07-25 04:54ZephyrIDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. (Postmodernism
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IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. (Postmodernism like art and books) They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins that basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition they lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal 'fanbase'? By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just another definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition within itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being precisely or readily described; not easily put into words" (Dictionary.com). I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a WMAC (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of America, more importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of exotic edge to my musical selection- while everyone else is content with their 50 Cent I have BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along with. What I should start doing- is finding ways to play it over the speakers of the school to annoy the fuck out of people. And alienate myself more. Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of Fight Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't matter in the very end of it all. (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-I-think-is-funny.-tf1996393.html#a5479931 Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2006-07-25 06:23jgmOn Monday 24 July 2006 9:54 pm, Zephyr wrote: > IDM and Postmodernism are basically the sa
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On Monday 24 July 2006 9:54 pm, Zephyr wrote:
quoted 27 lines IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it.> IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. > > (Postmodernism like art and books) > > They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins > that basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition > they lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal > 'fanbase'? By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just > another definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition > within itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being > precisely or readily described; not easily put into words" > (Dictionary.com). > > I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a > WMAC (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of > America, more importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of exotic > edge to my musical selection- while everyone else is content with their 50 > Cent I have BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along with. What I > should start doing- is finding ways to play it over the speakers of the > school to annoy the fuck out of people. And alienate myself more. > > Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being > punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of Fight > Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't matter in > the very end of it all. > > (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.)
Er, where's the part you find funny? Also, speaking of contemporary authors, why not check out Dennis Cooper? I think you should. And the artist Takashi Murakami - there's postmodernism for you. As for postmodernism's relation to idm, I disagree that they are both the out catogories for the undefinable but I do sort of see where you're coming from. I think of postmodernism more as a loose reference to selfconscious art (such as the writing of Barthelme) or the philosophy of Derrida - or the two people I mentioned in paragrapha 1. IDM however has a fairly direct definition, and when someone says that they like IDM I have a pretty good idea what they mean, similar with postmodernism. However, if you told me you liked rock music I wouldn't have much of an idea of what you liked. Do you like Pavement, or Ween? Or maybe your idea of rock music is Chuck Berry, or maybe it's the Fall. Personally I love Legendary Pink Dots as much or more than I do Aphex Twin, and LPD are probably as undefinable if not moreso. No need to ask for flames, more likely you'll be missed among ebay postings. Not sure where you were going with your post, and I'm less sure where this one ends up. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2006-07-25 20:40theREALmxyzptlkjgm wrote: >On Monday 24 July 2006 9:54 pm, Zephyr wrote: > > >>IDM and Postmodernism are
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quoted 12 lines On Monday 24 July 2006 9:54 pm, Zephyr wrote:>On Monday 24 July 2006 9:54 pm, Zephyr wrote: > > >>IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. >> >>(Postmodernism like art and books) >> >>They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins >>that basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition >>they lack concrete definition. ... >>Oh, and please do flame me. >>
...not a flame here, but I wouldn't say pomo is undefinebale or uncategorical. I've read enough Jameson, Baudrillard, etc. and sat in a sufficient number Critical Theory seminars to see well arcticulated definitions and categories which share the same blanket - even to the point of differentiating it from poststructuralism (which is deeper and more interesting, imo). You'll find tweaks, nuances and different disciplines spinning it to fit their niches, but that isn't to say it is undefined by any means. And I'll agree with Mr. Lockett on his contribution to the thread re: IDM. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2006-07-25 09:22Philip OrrI'm sorry, did you have a point, or were you just trying to be pretentious? Or were you ju
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I'm sorry, did you have a point, or were you just trying to be pretentious? Or were you just PRETENDING to be trying to be pretentious! Maybe thats it! Maybe its all a parody! Maybe you were personifying the genre! Genius! On 25/07/06, Zephyr <bholme1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
quoted 44 lines IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it.> > > IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. > > (Postmodernism like art and books) > > They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins > that > basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition they > lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal 'fanbase'? > By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just another > definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition within > itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being precisely or > readily described; not easily put into words" (Dictionary.com). > > I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a > WMAC > (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of America, > more > importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of exotic edge to my > musical selection- while everyone else is content with their 50 Cent I > have > BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along with. What I should > start > doing- is finding ways to play it over the speakers of the school to annoy > the fuck out of people. And alienate myself more. > > Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being > punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of Fight > Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't matter in > the very end of it all. > > (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.) > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/What-I-think-is-funny.-tf1996393.html#a5479931 > Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
2006-07-25 11:09bob humidi can see a clear difference between "Ni Ten Ich Riu" by Photek and some of our ugliest co
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i can see a clear difference between "Ni Ten Ich Riu" by Photek and some of our ugliest cologne postmodern metro-stations. first has taste, second hasn't.. for me postmodernism sounds as an insult in most of the cases... good electronic music and / or architecture has this rare "timeless" feel to it and defies too much categorisation. but then i would never call that postmodern.. just "modern" would suit it.. for example all this neo-rock popbands (for example white stripes) that are having a tremendous success with some slightly minimalised 70ies sound-esthetics are very postmodern in their habit and ZERO modern in terms of avantgarde. they sound a bit old and farty but the kids love it. "postmodern" works nicely as an insult. maybe the word postmodern is changing and so is the word IDM. a lot of people are saying things like "IDM is dead" lately. it is very unfortunate that we tend to think in categories anyway. some ppl start to call every new breaky track "dubstep".. robert
quoted 54 lines On 25/07/06, Zephyr <bholme1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:> > > On 25/07/06, Zephyr <bholme1@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >> >> >> IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think >> about it. >> >> (Postmodernism like art and books) >> >> They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins >> that >> basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition >> they >> lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal >> 'fanbase'? >> By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just another >> definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition within >> itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being precisely or >> readily described; not easily put into words" (Dictionary.com). >> >> I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a >> WMAC >> (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of America, >> more >> importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of exotic edge to my >> musical selection- while everyone else is content with their 50 Cent I >> have >> BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along with. What I should >> start >> doing- is finding ways to play it over the speakers of the school to >> annoy >> the fuck out of people. And alienate myself more. >> >> Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being >> punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of >> Fight >> Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't >> matter in >> the very end of it all. >> >> (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.) >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/What-I-think-is-funny.-tf1996393.html#a5479931 >> Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >
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2006-07-25 09:47Alan LockettHalf-baked blather :-) I think a degree of analytical clear-headedness would reveal IDM an
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Half-baked blather :-) I think a degree of analytical clear-headedness would reveal IDM and Postmodernism as different-category concepts, each with quite distinct definitions, albeit 'loose'. They're not just ragbags to throw the uncategorisable into. 'IDM' is a broad consensually established musical tag denoting a roughly agreed upon musical product with predominantly identifiable characteristics, whereas 'Postmodernism' serves to point to a spirit, a philosophy, or a 'condition' from which an artefact (be it pictorial, textual, musical, architectural...) arises by dint of defining aspects such as self-consciousness, referentiality, or intertextuality, a concern for (or a dissolving of boundaries of) surface/form vs. 'content', and the progressive removal of the expressive 'Romantic' (or rational 'Modernist') unitary individual Self as Author (I could go on, and, in a sense, I already have...) To revisit the original statement of thesis: it would be true (if not especially novel or interesting) to state that IDM may be characterised in terms of postmodernism, especially to the extent that it draws self-consciously on the existence of pre-established genre templates ('minimal house', 'ambient dub') and sonic 'signifiers' (as mediated through presets, samples, patches...blah blah). Postmodernism, however, may not be characterised in terms of 'IDM'... when you think about it. There we go. I believe someone asked for it :-) alan --On 24 July 2006 21:54 -0700 Zephyr <bholme1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
quoted 39 lines IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it.> > IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. > > (Postmodernism like art and books) > > They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins > that basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition > they lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal > 'fanbase'? By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just > another definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition > within itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being > precisely or readily described; not easily put into words" > (Dictionary.com). > > I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a > WMAC (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of > America, more importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of > exotic edge to my musical selection- while everyone else is content with > their 50 Cent I have BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along > with. What I should start doing- is finding ways to play it over the > speakers of the school to annoy the fuck out of people. And alienate > myself more. > > Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being > punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of Fight > Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't matter in > the very end of it all. > > (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.) > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/What-I-think-is-funny.-tf1996393.html#a5479931 Sent > from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2006-07-27 07:53fwitcherHi All! High fives all around! If yer gonna like somethin you should know what it is you l
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Hi All! High fives all around! If yer gonna like somethin you should know what it is you like and why it isn't somthin else That said, and in support of Alan and at least one other post (at least in part), I offer the following long, tedious, but edifying and instructive headpound: Postmodernism is a term usually used to describe a type of intellectual thought that is often considered a critique of (or reaction to) modernism. The term is extremely controversial in that many scholars, intellectuals, and historians have failed to agree on what it is, and whether it exists. Nevertheless, most agree that postmodern ideas have had a major impact on philosophy, art, critical theory, literature, architecture, interpretation of history, and culture since the late 20th century. The term defies easy definition, but is generally comprised of the following core ideals: ? A continual skepticism towards the ideas and ideals of Modernism, especially the ideas of progress, objectivity, reason, certainty & personal identity, and grand narrative in general (see Counter-Enlightenment ? The belief that all communication is shaped by cultural bias, myth, metaphor, and political content. (see Cultural relativism) ? The assertion that meaning and experience can only be created by the individual, and cannot be made objective by an author or narrator.(see Existentialism) ? Parody, satire, self-reference, and wit.(see no hugging, no learning) ? Acceptance of a mass media dominated society in which there is no originality, but only copies of what has been done before. (see late capitalism) ? Globalization, a culturally pluralistic and profoundly interconnected global society lacking any single dominant center of political power, communication, or intellectual production. Instead, the world is moving towards decentralization in all types of global processes. Postmodernism in music Postmodern music is both a musical style and a musical condition. As a musical style, postmodern music contains characteristics of postmodern art?that is, art after modernism (see Modernism in Music); eclecticism in musical form and musical genre, combining characteristics from different genres, or employing jump-cut sectionalization (such as blocks). It tends to be self-referential and ironic, and it blurs the boundaries between "high art" and kitsch. Daniel Albright (2004) summarizes the traits of the postmodern style as bricolage, polystylism, and randomness. As a musical condition, postmodern music is simply the state of music in postmodernity, music after modernity. In this sense, postmodern music does not have any one particular style or characteristic, and is not necessarily postmodern in style or technique. The music of modernity, however, was viewed primarily as a means of expression while the music of postmodernity is valued more as a spectacle, a good for mass consumption, and an indicator of group identity. For example, one significant role of music in postmodern society is to act as a badge by which people can signify their identity as a member of a particular subculture. Postmodernity is also seen as an outgrowth of minimalism, as stated by composer Don Davis. Postmodern music was utilized by film in the 1999 blockbuster "The Matrix," with music composed by Davis. With no central themes or motifs, and a very random arrangement of music, all linked by only similar musical texturing or orchestration, the music is as different from the norm as the film is. -- Alan Lockett <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: Half-baked blather :-) I think a degree of analytical clear-headedness would reveal IDM and Postmodernism as different-category concepts, each with quite distinct definitions, albeit 'loose'. They're not just ragbags to throw the uncategorisable into. 'IDM' is a broad consensually established musical tag denoting a roughly agreed upon musical product with predominantly identifiable characteristics, whereas 'Postmodernism' serves to point to a spirit, a philosophy, or a 'condition' from which an artefact (be it pictorial, textual, musical, architectural...) arises by dint of defining aspects such as self-consciousness, referentiality, or intertextuality, a concern for (or a dissolving of boundaries of) surface/form vs. 'content', and the progressive removal of the expressive 'Romantic' (or rational 'Modernist') unitary individual Self as Author (I could go on, and, in a sense, I already have...) To revisit the original statement of thesis: it would be true (if not especially novel or interesting) to state that IDM may be characterised in terms of postmodernism, especially to the extent that it draws self-consciously on the existence of pre-established genre templates ('minimal house', 'ambient dub') and sonic 'signifiers' (as mediated through presets, samples, patches...blah blah). Postmodernism, however, may not be characterised in terms of 'IDM'... when you think about it. There we go. I believe someone asked for it :-) alan --On 24 July 2006 21:54 -0700 Zephyr <bholme1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
quoted 39 lines IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it.> > IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it. > > (Postmodernism like art and books) > > They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins > that basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition > they lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal > 'fanbase'? By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just > another definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition > within itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being > precisely or readily described; not easily put into words" > (Dictionary.com). > > I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a > WMAC (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of > America, more importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of > exotic edge to my musical selection- while everyone else is content with > their 50 Cent I have BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along > with. What I should start doing- is finding ways to play it over the > speakers of the school to annoy the fuck out of people. And alienate > myself more. > > Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being > punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of Fight > Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't matter in > the very end of it all. > > (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.) > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/What-I-think-is-funny.-tf1996393.html#a5479931 Sent > from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2006-07-27 16:34Papa LazarouJust read Jean-Francois Lyotard and Walter Benjamin. They invented the bloody post modern
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Just read Jean-Francois Lyotard and Walter Benjamin. They invented the bloody post modern term. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
2006-07-27 17:05Eric SorensonPo-mo discussions get my juices flowing. It's a weakness held over from my heady collegiat
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Po-mo discussions get my juices flowing. It's a weakness held over from my heady collegiate days (those I remember, anyway). But the final words on the subject belong to Mark Leyner for the following text. Reprinted without permission, because ownership is a null-value construct anyway. December 21, 1997 Geraldo, Eat Your Avant-Pop Heart Out By MARK LEYNER HOBOKEN, N.J. -- JENNY JONES: Boy, we have a show for you today! Recently, the University of Virginia philosopher Richard Rorty made the stunning declaration that nobody has "the foggiest idea" what postmodernism means. "It would be nice to get rid of it," he said. "It isn't exactly an idea; it's a word that pretends to stand for an idea." This shocking admission that there is no such thing as postmodernism has produced a firestorm of protest around the country. Thousands of authors, critics and graduate students who'd considered themselves postmodernists are outraged at the betrayal. Today we have with us a writer -- a recovering postmodernist -- who believes that his literary career and personal life have been irreparably damaged by the theory, and who feels defrauded by the academics who promulgated it. He wishes to remain anonymous, so we'll call him "Alex." Alex, as an adolescent, before you began experimenting with postmodernism, you considered yourself -- what? Close shot of ALEX. An electronic blob obscures his face. Words appear at bottom of screen: "Says he was traumatized by postmodernism and blames academics." ALEX (his voice electronically altered): A high modernist. Y'know, Pound, Eliot, Georges Braque, Wallace Stevens, Arnold Schönberg, Mies van der Rohe. I had all of Schönberg's 78's. JENNY JONES: And then you started reading people like Jean-François Lyotard and Jean Baudrillard -- how did that change your feelings about your modernist heroes? ALEX: I suddenly felt that they were, like, stifling and canonical. JENNY JONES: Stifling and canonical? That is so sad, such a waste. How old were you when you first read Fredric Jameson? ALEX: Nine, I think. The AUDIENCE gasps. JENNY JONES: We have some pictures of young Alex. ... We see snapshots of 14-year-old ALEX reading Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari's "Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia." The AUDIENCE oohs and ahs. ALEX: We used to go to a friend's house after school -- y'know, his parents were never home -- and we'd read, like, Paul Virilio and Julia Kristeva. JENNY JONES: So you're only 14, and you're already skeptical toward the "grand narratives" of modernity, you're questioning any belief system that claims universality or transcendence. Why? ALEX: I guess -- to be cool. JENNY JONES: So, peer pressure? ALEX: I guess. JENNY JONES: And do you remember how you felt the very first time you entertained the notion that you and your universe are constituted by language -- that reality is a cultural construct, a "text" whose meaning is determined by infinite associations with other "texts"? ALEX: Uh, it felt, like, good. I wanted to do it again. The AUDIENCE groans. JENNY JONES: You were arrested at about this time? ALEX: For spray-painting "The Hermeneutics of Indeterminacy" on an overpass. JENNY JONES: You're the child of a mixed marriage -- is that right? ALEX: My father was a de Stijl Wittgensteinian and my mom was a neo-pre-Raphaelite. JENNY JONES: Do you think that growing up in a mixed marriage made you more vulnerable to the siren song of postmodernism? ALEX: Absolutely. It's hard when you're a little kid not to be able to just come right out and say (sniffles), y'know, I'm an Imagist or I'm a phenomenologist or I'm a post-painterly abstractionist. It's really hard -- especially around the holidays. (He cries.) JENNY JONES: I hear you. Was your wife a postmodernist? ALEX: Yes. She was raised avant-pop, which is a fundamentalist offshoot of postmodernism. JENNY JONES: How did she react to Rorty's admission that postmodernism was essentially a hoax? ALEX: She was devastated. I mean, she's got all the John Zorn albums and the entire Semiotext(e) series. She was crushed. We see ALEX'S WIFE in the audience, weeping softly, her hands covering her face. JENNY JONES: And you were raising your daughter as a postmodernist? ALEX: Of course. That's what makes this particularly tragic. I mean, how do you explain to a 5-year-old that self-consciously recycling cultural detritus is suddenly no longer a valid art form when, for her entire life, she's been taught that it is? JENNY JONES: Tell us how you think postmodernism affected your career as a novelist. ALEX: I disavowed writing that contained real ideas or any real passion. My work became disjunctive, facetious and nihilistic. It was all blank parody, irony enveloped in more irony. It merely recapitulated the pernicious banality of television and advertising. I found myself indiscriminately incorporating any and all kinds of pop kitsch and shlock. (He begins to weep again.) JENNY JONES: And this spilled over into your personal life? ALEX: It was impossible for me to experience life with any emotional intensity. I couldn't control the irony anymore. I perceived my own feelings as if they were in quotes. I italicized everything and everyone. It became impossible for me to appraise the quality of anything. To me everything was equivalent -- the Brandenburg Concertos and the Lysol jingle had the same value. . . . (He breaks down, sobbing.) JENNY JONES: Now, you're involved in a lawsuit, aren't you? ALEX: Yes. I'm suing the Modern Language Association. JENNY JONES: How confident are you about winning? ALEX: We need to prove that, while they were actively propounding it, academics knew all along that postmodernism was a specious theory. If we can unearth some intradepartmental memos -- y'know, a paper trail -- any corroboration that they knew postmodernism was worthless cant at the same time they were teaching it, then I think we have an excellent shot at establishing liability. JENNY JONES wades into audience and proffers microphone to a woman. WOMAN (with lateral head-bobbing): It's ironic that Barry Scheck is representing the M.L.A. in this litigation because Scheck is the postmodern attorney par excellence. This is the guy who's made a career of volatilizing truth in the simulacrum of exculpation! VOICE FROM AUDIENCE: You go, girl! WOMAN: Scheck is the guy who came up with the quintessentially postmodern re-bleed defense for O. J., which claims that O. J. merely vigorously shook Ron and Nicole, thereby re-aggravating pre-existing knife wounds. I'd just like to say to any client of Barry Scheck -- lose that zero and get a hero! The AUDIENCE cheers wildly. WOMAN: Uh, I forgot my question. Dissolve to message on screen: If you believe that mathematician Andrew Wiles' proof of Fermat's last theorem has caused you or a member of your family to dress too provocatively, call (800) 555-9455. Dissolve back to studio.In the audience, JENNY JONES extends the microphone to a man in his mid-30's with a scruffy beard and a bandana around his head. MAN WITH BANDANA: I'd like to say that this "Alex" is the single worst example of pointless irony in American literature, and this whole heartfelt renunciation of postmodernism is a ploy -- it's just more irony. The AUDIENCE whistles and hoots. ALEX: You think this is a ploy?! (He tears futilely at the electronic blob.) This is my face! The AUDIENCE recoils in horror. ALEX: This is what can happen to people who naïvely embrace postmodernism, to people who believe that the individual -- the autonomous, individualist subject -- is dead. They become a palimpsest of media pastiche -- a mask of metastatic irony. JENNY JONES (biting lip and shaking her head): That is so sad. Alex -- final words? ALEX: I'd just like to say that self-consciousness and irony seem like fun at first, but they can destroy your life. I know. You gotta be earnest, be real. Real feelings are important. Objective reality does exist. AUDIENCE members whoop, stomp and pump fists in the air. JENNY JONES: I'd like to thank Alex for having the courage to come on today and share his experience with us. Join us for tomorrow's show, "The End of Manichean, Bipolar Geopolitics Turned My Boyfriend Into an Insatiable Sex Freak (and I Love It!)." -- - Eric Sorenson - N37 17.255 W121 55.738 - http://eric.explosive.net - - Personal colo with a professional touch - http://www.explosive.net -
2006-07-27 19:41Alan LockettGood one, Eric. I assume some familiarity with this one too: Postmodernists on Jerry Sprin
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Good one, Eric. I assume some familiarity with this one too: Postmodernists on Jerry Springer Todd: Hi, Jerry. Jerry: (reading from card) So, Todd, you're here to tell your girlfriend something. What is it? Todd: Well, Jerry, my girlfriend Ursula and I have been going out for three years now. We did everything together. We were really inseparable. But then she discovered post-Marxist political and literary theory, and it's been nothing but fighting ever since. Jerry: Why is that? Todd: You see, Jerry, I'm a traditional Cartesian rationalist. I believe that the individual self, the "I" or ego is the foundation of all metaphysics. She, on the other hand, believes that the contemporary self is a socially constructed, multi-faceted subjectivity reflecting the political and economic realities of late capitalist consumerist discourse. Crowd: Ooooohhhh! Todd: I know! I know! Is that infantile, or what? Jerry: So what do you want to tell her today? Todd: I want to tell her that unless she ditches the post-modernism, we're through. I just can't go on having a relationship with a woman who doesn't believe I exist. <natural break> read further at: <http://home.tiac.net/~cri/1999/springer.html> --On 27 July 2006 10:05 -0700 Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:
quoted 226 lines Po-mo discussions get my juices flowing. It's a weakness held over> > Po-mo discussions get my juices flowing. It's a weakness held over > from my heady collegiate days (those I remember, anyway). > > But the final words on the subject belong to Mark Leyner for the > following text. Reprinted without permission, because ownership > is a null-value construct anyway. > > > December 21, 1997 > > > Geraldo, Eat Your Avant-Pop Heart Out > > > > By MARK LEYNER > HOBOKEN, N.J. -- JENNY JONES: Boy, we have a show for you today! > > Recently, the University of Virginia philosopher Richard Rorty made > the stunning declaration that nobody has "the foggiest idea" what > postmodernism means. "It would be nice to get rid of it," he said. "It > isn't exactly an idea; it's a word that pretends to stand for an idea." > > This shocking admission that there is no such thing as postmodernism > has produced a firestorm of protest around the country. Thousands of > authors, critics and graduate students who'd considered themselves > postmodernists are outraged at the betrayal. > > Today we have with us a writer -- a recovering postmodernist -- who > believes that his literary career and personal life have been > irreparably damaged by the theory, and who feels defrauded by the > academics who promulgated it. He wishes to remain anonymous, so we'll > call him "Alex." > > Alex, as an adolescent, before you began experimenting with > postmodernism, you considered yourself -- what? > > Close shot of ALEX. > > An electronic blob obscures his face. Words appear at bottom of > screen: "Says he was traumatized by postmodernism and blames > academics." > > ALEX (his voice electronically altered): A high modernist. Y'know, > Pound, Eliot, Georges Braque, Wallace Stevens, Arnold Schönberg, Mies > van der Rohe. I had all of Schönberg's 78's. > > JENNY JONES: And then you started reading people like Jean-François > Lyotard and Jean Baudrillard -- how did that change your feelings > about your modernist heroes? > > ALEX: I suddenly felt that they were, like, stifling and canonical. > > JENNY JONES: Stifling and canonical? That is so sad, such a waste. How > old were you when you first read Fredric Jameson? > > ALEX: Nine, I think. > > The AUDIENCE gasps. > > JENNY JONES: We have some pictures of young Alex. ... > > We see snapshots of 14-year-old ALEX reading Gilles Deleuze and Felix > Guattari's "Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia." The AUDIENCE > oohs and ahs. > > ALEX: We used to go to a friend's house after school -- y'know, his > parents were never home -- and we'd read, like, Paul Virilio and Julia > Kristeva. > > JENNY JONES: So you're only 14, and you're already skeptical toward > the "grand narratives" of modernity, you're questioning any belief > system that claims universality or transcendence. Why? > > ALEX: I guess -- to be cool. > > JENNY JONES: So, peer pressure? > > ALEX: I guess. > > JENNY JONES: And do you remember how you felt the very first time you > entertained the notion that you and your universe are constituted by > language -- that reality is a cultural construct, a "text" whose > meaning is determined by infinite associations with other "texts"? > > ALEX: Uh, it felt, like, good. I wanted to do it again. The AUDIENCE > groans. > > JENNY JONES: You were arrested at about this time? > > ALEX: For spray-painting "The Hermeneutics of Indeterminacy" on an > overpass. > > JENNY JONES: You're the child of a mixed marriage -- is that right? > > ALEX: My father was a de Stijl Wittgensteinian and my mom was a > neo-pre-Raphaelite. > > JENNY JONES: Do you think that growing up in a mixed marriage made you > more vulnerable to the siren song of postmodernism? > > ALEX: Absolutely. It's hard when you're a little kid not to be able to > just come right out and say (sniffles), y'know, I'm an Imagist or I'm > a phenomenologist or I'm a post-painterly abstractionist. It's really > hard -- especially around the holidays. (He cries.) > > JENNY JONES: I hear you. Was your wife a postmodernist? > > ALEX: Yes. She was raised avant-pop, which is a fundamentalist > offshoot of postmodernism. > > JENNY JONES: How did she react to Rorty's admission that postmodernism > was essentially a hoax? > > ALEX: She was devastated. I mean, she's got all the John Zorn albums > and the entire Semiotext(e) series. She was crushed. > > We see ALEX'S WIFE in the audience, weeping softly, her hands covering > her face. > > JENNY JONES: And you were raising your daughter as a postmodernist? > > ALEX: Of course. That's what makes this particularly tragic. I mean, > how do you explain to a 5-year-old that self-consciously recycling > cultural detritus is suddenly no longer a valid art form when, for her > entire life, she's been taught that it is? > > JENNY JONES: Tell us how you think postmodernism affected your career > as a novelist. > > ALEX: I disavowed writing that contained real ideas or any real > passion. My work became disjunctive, facetious and nihilistic. It was > all blank parody, irony enveloped in more irony. > > It merely recapitulated the pernicious banality of television and > advertising. I found myself indiscriminately incorporating any and all > kinds of pop kitsch and shlock. (He begins to weep again.) > > JENNY JONES: And this spilled over into your personal life? > > ALEX: It was impossible for me to experience life with any emotional > intensity. I couldn't control the irony anymore. I perceived my own > feelings as if they were in quotes. > > I italicized everything and everyone. It became impossible for me to > appraise the quality of anything. To me everything was equivalent -- > the Brandenburg Concertos and the Lysol jingle had the same value. > . . . (He breaks down, sobbing.) > > JENNY JONES: Now, you're involved in a lawsuit, aren't you? > > ALEX: Yes. I'm suing the Modern Language Association. > > JENNY JONES: How confident are you about winning? > > ALEX: We need to prove that, while they were actively propounding it, > academics knew all along that postmodernism was a specious theory. > > If we can unearth some intradepartmental memos -- y'know, a paper > trail -- any corroboration that they knew postmodernism was worthless > cant at the same time they were teaching it, then I think we have an > excellent shot at establishing liability. > > JENNY JONES wades into audience and proffers microphone to a woman. > > WOMAN (with lateral head-bobbing): It's ironic that Barry Scheck is > representing the M.L.A. in this litigation because Scheck is the > postmodern attorney par excellence. This is the guy who's made a > career of volatilizing truth in the simulacrum of exculpation! > > VOICE FROM AUDIENCE: You go, girl! > > WOMAN: Scheck is the guy who came up with the quintessentially > postmodern re-bleed defense for O. J., which claims that O. J. merely > vigorously shook Ron and Nicole, thereby re-aggravating pre-existing > knife wounds. I'd just like to say to any client of Barry Scheck -- > lose that zero and get a hero! > > The AUDIENCE cheers wildly. > > WOMAN: Uh, I forgot my question. > > Dissolve to message on screen: If you believe that mathematician > Andrew Wiles' proof of Fermat's last theorem has caused you or a > member of your family to dress too provocatively, call (800) 555-9455. > > Dissolve back to studio.In the audience, JENNY JONES extends the > microphone to a man in his mid-30's with a scruffy beard and a bandana > around his head. > > MAN WITH BANDANA: I'd like to say that this "Alex" is the single worst > example of pointless irony in American literature, and this whole > heartfelt renunciation of postmodernism is a ploy -- it's just more > irony. > > The AUDIENCE whistles and hoots. > > ALEX: You think this is a ploy?! (He tears futilely at the electronic > blob.) This is my face! > > The AUDIENCE recoils in horror. > > ALEX: This is what can happen to people who naïvely embrace > postmodernism, to people who believe that the individual -- the > autonomous, individualist subject -- is dead. They become a palimpsest > of media pastiche -- a mask of metastatic irony. > > JENNY JONES (biting lip and shaking her head): That is so sad. Alex -- > final words? > > ALEX: I'd just like to say that self-consciousness and irony seem like > fun at first, but they can destroy your life. I know. You gotta be > earnest, be real. Real feelings are important. Objective reality does > exist. AUDIENCE members whoop, stomp and pump fists in the air. > > JENNY JONES: I'd like to thank Alex for having the courage to come on > today and share his experience with us. > > Join us for tomorrow's show, "The End of Manichean, Bipolar > Geopolitics Turned My Boyfriend Into an Insatiable Sex Freak (and I > Love It!)." > > -- > - Eric Sorenson - N37 17.255 W121 55.738 - http://eric.explosive.net - > - Personal colo with a professional touch - http://www.explosive.net -
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2006-07-27 23:37darnistleThanks for posting this. Not only was it funny, but i also learned a new word: palimpsest
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Thanks for posting this. Not only was it funny, but i also learned a new word: palimpsest Now, the trick is working into everday conversation so I remember it... On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:05:54AM -0700, Eric Sorenson wrote:
quoted 226 lines Po-mo discussions get my juices flowing. It's a weakness held over> > Po-mo discussions get my juices flowing. It's a weakness held over > from my heady collegiate days (those I remember, anyway). > > But the final words on the subject belong to Mark Leyner for the > following text. Reprinted without permission, because ownership > is a null-value construct anyway. > > > December 21, 1997 > > > Geraldo, Eat Your Avant-Pop Heart Out > > > > By MARK LEYNER > HOBOKEN, N.J. -- JENNY JONES: Boy, we have a show for you today! > > Recently, the University of Virginia philosopher Richard Rorty made > the stunning declaration that nobody has "the foggiest idea" what > postmodernism means. "It would be nice to get rid of it," he said. "It > isn't exactly an idea; it's a word that pretends to stand for an idea." > > This shocking admission that there is no such thing as postmodernism > has produced a firestorm of protest around the country. Thousands of > authors, critics and graduate students who'd considered themselves > postmodernists are outraged at the betrayal. > > Today we have with us a writer -- a recovering postmodernist -- who > believes that his literary career and personal life have been > irreparably damaged by the theory, and who feels defrauded by the > academics who promulgated it. He wishes to remain anonymous, so we'll > call him "Alex." > > Alex, as an adolescent, before you began experimenting with > postmodernism, you considered yourself -- what? > > Close shot of ALEX. > > An electronic blob obscures his face. Words appear at bottom of > screen: "Says he was traumatized by postmodernism and blames > academics." > > ALEX (his voice electronically altered): A high modernist. Y'know, > Pound, Eliot, Georges Braque, Wallace Stevens, Arnold Sch?nberg, Mies > van der Rohe. I had all of Sch?nberg's 78's. > > JENNY JONES: And then you started reading people like Jean-Fran?ois > Lyotard and Jean Baudrillard -- how did that change your feelings > about your modernist heroes? > > ALEX: I suddenly felt that they were, like, stifling and canonical. > > JENNY JONES: Stifling and canonical? That is so sad, such a waste. How > old were you when you first read Fredric Jameson? > > ALEX: Nine, I think. > > The AUDIENCE gasps. > > JENNY JONES: We have some pictures of young Alex. ... > > We see snapshots of 14-year-old ALEX reading Gilles Deleuze and Felix > Guattari's "Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia." The AUDIENCE > oohs and ahs. > > ALEX: We used to go to a friend's house after school -- y'know, his > parents were never home -- and we'd read, like, Paul Virilio and Julia > Kristeva. > > JENNY JONES: So you're only 14, and you're already skeptical toward > the "grand narratives" of modernity, you're questioning any belief > system that claims universality or transcendence. Why? > > ALEX: I guess -- to be cool. > > JENNY JONES: So, peer pressure? > > ALEX: I guess. > > JENNY JONES: And do you remember how you felt the very first time you > entertained the notion that you and your universe are constituted by > language -- that reality is a cultural construct, a "text" whose > meaning is determined by infinite associations with other "texts"? > > ALEX: Uh, it felt, like, good. I wanted to do it again. The AUDIENCE > groans. > > JENNY JONES: You were arrested at about this time? > > ALEX: For spray-painting "The Hermeneutics of Indeterminacy" on an > overpass. > > JENNY JONES: You're the child of a mixed marriage -- is that right? > > ALEX: My father was a de Stijl Wittgensteinian and my mom was a > neo-pre-Raphaelite. > > JENNY JONES: Do you think that growing up in a mixed marriage made you > more vulnerable to the siren song of postmodernism? > > ALEX: Absolutely. It's hard when you're a little kid not to be able to > just come right out and say (sniffles), y'know, I'm an Imagist or I'm > a phenomenologist or I'm a post-painterly abstractionist. It's really > hard -- especially around the holidays. (He cries.) > > JENNY JONES: I hear you. Was your wife a postmodernist? > > ALEX: Yes. She was raised avant-pop, which is a fundamentalist > offshoot of postmodernism. > > JENNY JONES: How did she react to Rorty's admission that postmodernism > was essentially a hoax? > > ALEX: She was devastated. I mean, she's got all the John Zorn albums > and the entire Semiotext(e) series. She was crushed. > > We see ALEX'S WIFE in the audience, weeping softly, her hands covering > her face. > > JENNY JONES: And you were raising your daughter as a postmodernist? > > ALEX: Of course. That's what makes this particularly tragic. I mean, > how do you explain to a 5-year-old that self-consciously recycling > cultural detritus is suddenly no longer a valid art form when, for her > entire life, she's been taught that it is? > > JENNY JONES: Tell us how you think postmodernism affected your career > as a novelist. > > ALEX: I disavowed writing that contained real ideas or any real > passion. My work became disjunctive, facetious and nihilistic. It was > all blank parody, irony enveloped in more irony. > > It merely recapitulated the pernicious banality of television and > advertising. I found myself indiscriminately incorporating any and all > kinds of pop kitsch and shlock. (He begins to weep again.) > > JENNY JONES: And this spilled over into your personal life? > > ALEX: It was impossible for me to experience life with any emotional > intensity. I couldn't control the irony anymore. I perceived my own > feelings as if they were in quotes. > > I italicized everything and everyone. It became impossible for me to > appraise the quality of anything. To me everything was equivalent -- > the Brandenburg Concertos and the Lysol jingle had the same value. > . . . (He breaks down, sobbing.) > > JENNY JONES: Now, you're involved in a lawsuit, aren't you? > > ALEX: Yes. I'm suing the Modern Language Association. > > JENNY JONES: How confident are you about winning? > > ALEX: We need to prove that, while they were actively propounding it, > academics knew all along that postmodernism was a specious theory. > > If we can unearth some intradepartmental memos -- y'know, a paper > trail -- any corroboration that they knew postmodernism was worthless > cant at the same time they were teaching it, then I think we have an > excellent shot at establishing liability. > > JENNY JONES wades into audience and proffers microphone to a woman. > > WOMAN (with lateral head-bobbing): It's ironic that Barry Scheck is > representing the M.L.A. in this litigation because Scheck is the > postmodern attorney par excellence. This is the guy who's made a > career of volatilizing truth in the simulacrum of exculpation! > > VOICE FROM AUDIENCE: You go, girl! > > WOMAN: Scheck is the guy who came up with the quintessentially > postmodern re-bleed defense for O. J., which claims that O. J. merely > vigorously shook Ron and Nicole, thereby re-aggravating pre-existing > knife wounds. I'd just like to say to any client of Barry Scheck -- > lose that zero and get a hero! > > The AUDIENCE cheers wildly. > > WOMAN: Uh, I forgot my question. > > Dissolve to message on screen: If you believe that mathematician > Andrew Wiles' proof of Fermat's last theorem has caused you or a > member of your family to dress too provocatively, call (800) 555-9455. > > Dissolve back to studio.In the audience, JENNY JONES extends the > microphone to a man in his mid-30's with a scruffy beard and a bandana > around his head. > > MAN WITH BANDANA: I'd like to say that this "Alex" is the single worst > example of pointless irony in American literature, and this whole > heartfelt renunciation of postmodernism is a ploy -- it's just more > irony. > > The AUDIENCE whistles and hoots. > > ALEX: You think this is a ploy?! (He tears futilely at the electronic > blob.) This is my face! > > The AUDIENCE recoils in horror. > > ALEX: This is what can happen to people who na?vely embrace > postmodernism, to people who believe that the individual -- the > autonomous, individualist subject -- is dead. They become a palimpsest > of media pastiche -- a mask of metastatic irony. > > JENNY JONES (biting lip and shaking her head): That is so sad. Alex -- > final words? > > ALEX: I'd just like to say that self-consciousness and irony seem like > fun at first, but they can destroy your life. I know. You gotta be > earnest, be real. Real feelings are important. Objective reality does > exist. AUDIENCE members whoop, stomp and pump fists in the air. > > JENNY JONES: I'd like to thank Alex for having the courage to come on > today and share his experience with us. > > Join us for tomorrow's show, "The End of Manichean, Bipolar > Geopolitics Turned My Boyfriend Into an Insatiable Sex Freak (and I > Love It!)." > > -- > - Eric Sorenson - N37 17.255 W121 55.738 - http://eric.explosive.net - > - Personal colo with a professional touch - http://www.explosive.net -
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Yo Things are slow w/ pertin_ 4 the summer BUT We got 2 new tracks, the were made with those ''low fi samples'' ( that u can DL here : http://www.pertinnce.com/bleupulp/pertin_lowfi_noises_pack.zip ) 4 the brain ; P24 Dry Heeves ''Goddammerung'' For those who like it a little *weird* :P / somewhat hip_hop.ish. Direct link : http://www.pertin-nce.com/elements/release/P18.19.20.21.22/P24_The_Dry_Heeve s_Goddammerung.mp3 and for the ''brain of the butt'' (???) ; P25 s,d&d&d ''low fi sample pack'' (pretty simple title) Some deeper 4/4 track that Sounds like the haze over a lake filled sticky blue fudge and pink buble gum (joke) Direct link : http://www.pertin-nce.com/elements/release/P25.26.27.28.29/P25_s.d.d.d_low_f i_sample_pack.mp3 enjoy our stuff at http://www.pertin-nce.com p e a c e o u t max presently listening to *bad language* ''recognize'' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org