Half-baked blather :-)
I think a degree of analytical clear-headedness would reveal IDM and
Postmodernism as different-category concepts, each with quite distinct
definitions, albeit 'loose'. They're not just ragbags to throw the
uncategorisable into. 'IDM' is a broad consensually established musical tag
denoting a roughly agreed upon musical product with predominantly
identifiable characteristics, whereas 'Postmodernism' serves to point to a
spirit, a philosophy, or a 'condition' from which an artefact (be it
pictorial, textual, musical, architectural...) arises by dint of defining
aspects such as self-consciousness, referentiality, or intertextuality, a
concern for (or a dissolving of boundaries of) surface/form vs. 'content',
and the progressive removal of the expressive 'Romantic' (or rational
'Modernist') unitary individual Self as Author (I could go on, and, in a
sense, I already have...)
To revisit the original statement of thesis: it would be true (if not
especially novel or interesting) to state that IDM may be characterised in
terms of postmodernism, especially to the extent that it draws
self-consciously on the existence of pre-established genre templates
('minimal house', 'ambient dub') and sonic 'signifiers' (as mediated
through presets, samples, patches...blah blah). Postmodernism, however, may
not be characterised in terms of 'IDM'... when you think about it.
There we go. I believe someone asked for it :-)
alan
--On 24 July 2006 21:54 -0700 Zephyr <bholme1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
quoted 39 lines IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it.
>
> IDM and Postmodernism are basically the same thing, if you think about it.
>
> (Postmodernism like art and books)
>
> They're the two "out" categories. The uncategorical. They're the bins
> that basically are for whatever doesn't fit anywhere else. By definition
> they lack concrete definition. So where does that put us, the loyal
> 'fanbase'? By definition, the undefinable. But in the end, it's just
> another definition. The state of undefinability is really a definition
> within itself, the definition of which being "not capable of being
> precisely or readily described; not easily put into words"
> (Dictionary.com).
>
> I don't really mind if by definition I'm being defined though. Being a
> WMAC (White male assumed christian) in the corridors of suburbia of
> America, more importantly Ohio for that matter- gives me a short of
> exotic edge to my musical selection- while everyone else is content with
> their 50 Cent I have BoC, Venetian Snares or Mr. James to laugh along
> with. What I should start doing- is finding ways to play it over the
> speakers of the school to annoy the fuck out of people. And alienate
> myself more.
>
> Oh, and please do flame me. I've read enough Palahinuk to like being
> punched, enough Vonnegut to satirically accept things, and enough of Fight
> Club to know that I'm not my music- and that my oppinion doesn't matter in
> the very end of it all.
>
> (Please do, I dropped like 3 names like some smug bastard.)
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