On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:16:39 -0700, Kevin Ryan wrote:
quoted 11 lines What is it? A month ago folks were complaining about
> What is it? A month ago folks were complaining about
> how everybody was
> ripping off Mantronix and how Mantronix wasn't getting
> due credit for
> innovating a certain sound: Can someone be more
> specific about what this
> Mantronix sound was that everybody was allegedly
> biting? In other words, what
> (on your account) set Mantronix apart from the general
> electrofunk milieu of
> the 80s, and other popular crews, such as Newcleus?
Other than Sir Mix A Lot continuing to make tons of $$$
from "Baby Got Back" (which is Mix A Lot rapping over
Channel One--an early Juan Atkins project--'s
"Technicolor") and the plethora of bands that chopped
up Kraftwerk for their percussion and rhythms, and
Schooly D's rhythms getting ripped off even to this day
17 years later (car commercials, bad dance music, Puff
Daddy, etc) Mantronix would be the one whose actual
music (and vibe) has been most ripped off, in my
opinion, from that era. I'm a huge Newcleus fan, a
huge Jonzun Crew fan, Man Parrish, et al fan, but none
of their tracks were nothing like Mantronix. Kurtis
Khaleel worked the hell out of his drum machines like
hadn't been done before, the edits on his record by
Chep Nunez were phenomenal. You don't hear that in
Newcleus, Jonzun Crew, et al. They programmed the drum
machines, but they didn't chop things up at all; they
were all pretty "straight" rhythmically. And Kurtis K.
produced and mixed and remixed others, giving them his
sound, unlike the boys behind Newcleus and the Jonzun
crew and Man Parrish et al. One of Beck's biggest
songs rips off Mantronix's "Needle To The Groove" as do
songs by the Chemical Brothers and many more. Listen
to Autechre, Prefuse 73, Timbaland, The Neptunes, and
Akufen and you know they've been influenced heavily by
Mantronix. Todd Terry was influenced by Kurtis K, Todd
Edwards was influenced by Kurtis K., Lil' Louis Vega,
and many more. The late Chep Nunez (who died
tragically in a house fire in the early 90s) was also
extremely influential (and he worked with tons of
others beside Mantronix), but Nunez didn't get the
props he deserved because he was more behind the
scenes. The first track on my Bip-Hop album is called
"Hell Yeah!" as a tribute to Mantronix and Chep Nunez:
"Do you like...MANTRONIX! Hell Yeah!" Incidentally it
also uses the sound of my spinning a Jonzun Crew record
backwards as one of its effects. Not trying to start a
war or anything here, just standing up for an artist
who meant a lot to me and others who I see continue to
be denied money he is owed. Take care. Andrew Duke
out now: Environmental Politics
http://and-oar.org
Take Nothing For Granted
http://acidfake.tk
Sprung
http://bip-hop.com
http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php?
cat=BLEEP12&fc_type=CD
*Canadian electronica album of the year nominee*
More Destructive Than Organized
http://staalplaat.com
Highest Common Denominator
http://pieheadrecords.com
Physical and Mental Health
http://dialrecords.com
74'02 (split with Hypo)
http://tsunami-addiction.com
Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation
http://techno.ca/cognition
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