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Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] Mantronix influence?
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Mad respects to Andrew!!!! some quickies for you all to peep re: Mantronik http://www.apple.com/creative/bios/mantronik/ http://www.cheebadesign.com/legends/disco.htm http://www.btinternet.com/~Huggesey/Housetimeline.htm --- andrewduke@canada.com wrote:
quoted 100 lines On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:16:39 -0700, Kevin Ryan> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:16:39 -0700, Kevin Ryan > wrote: > > > What is it? A month ago folks were complaining > about > > how everybody was > > ripping off Mantronix and how Mantronix wasn't > getting > > due credit for > > innovating a certain sound: Can someone be more > > specific about what this > > Mantronix sound was that everybody was allegedly > > biting? In other words, what > > (on your account) set Mantronix apart from the > general > > electrofunk milieu of > > the 80s, and other popular crews, such as > Newcleus? > > Other than Sir Mix A Lot continuing to make tons of > $$$ > from "Baby Got Back" (which is Mix A Lot rapping > over > Channel One--an early Juan Atkins project--'s > "Technicolor") and the plethora of bands that > chopped > up Kraftwerk for their percussion and rhythms, and > Schooly D's rhythms getting ripped off even to this > day > 17 years later (car commercials, bad dance music, > Puff > Daddy, etc) Mantronix would be the one whose actual > music (and vibe) has been most ripped off, in my > opinion, from that era. I'm a huge Newcleus fan, a > huge Jonzun Crew fan, Man Parrish, et al fan, but > none > of their tracks were nothing like Mantronix. Kurtis > Khaleel worked the hell out of his drum machines > like > hadn't been done before, the edits on his record by > Chep Nunez were phenomenal. You don't hear that in > Newcleus, Jonzun Crew, et al. They programmed the > drum > machines, but they didn't chop things up at all; > they > were all pretty "straight" rhythmically. And Kurtis > K. > produced and mixed and remixed others, giving them > his > sound, unlike the boys behind Newcleus and the > Jonzun > crew and Man Parrish et al. One of Beck's biggest > songs rips off Mantronix's "Needle To The Groove" as > do > songs by the Chemical Brothers and many more. > Listen > to Autechre, Prefuse 73, Timbaland, The Neptunes, > and > Akufen and you know they've been influenced heavily > by > Mantronix. Todd Terry was influenced by Kurtis K, > Todd > Edwards was influenced by Kurtis K., Lil' Louis > Vega, > and many more. The late Chep Nunez (who died > tragically in a house fire in the early 90s) was > also > extremely influential (and he worked with tons of > others beside Mantronix), but Nunez didn't get the > props he deserved because he was more behind the > scenes. The first track on my Bip-Hop album is > called > "Hell Yeah!" as a tribute to Mantronix and Chep > Nunez: > "Do you like...MANTRONIX! Hell Yeah!" Incidentally > it > also uses the sound of my spinning a Jonzun Crew > record > backwards as one of its effects. Not trying to > start a > war or anything here, just standing up for an artist > who meant a lot to me and others who I see continue > to > be denied money he is owed. Take care. Andrew Duke > > out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org > Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk > Sprung http://bip-hop.com > http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? > cat=BLEEP12&fc_type=CD > *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* > More Destructive Than Organized > http://staalplaat.com > Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com > Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com > 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com > Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation > http://techno.ca/cognition > >
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