Using the term and actually believing you're on a another level is two different things.
People who actually create music or disect its elements can find sometimes that idm
can be more intellectually stimulating than others things, for example, some
electronica/techno is HIGHLY repetative, which is loved by some, hated by others.
Depends on your environment... repetative is good on the dance floor, but if I'm at
home, it's severely boring.
-sine
On 17 Dec 2004 at 18:46, Paul Thomas wrote:
quoted 132 lines Sorry mate, I call bullshit. The only other people I've ever heard using
> Sorry mate, I call bullshit. The only other people I've ever heard using
> the term is Americans, over the internet and I've been in plenty of places
> where it would have been used. Also, the reply : "Oh we were being ironic,
> didn't you know... <cue pitying glace>" is pretty poor.
>
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CTubbs [mailto:tubbs@wispdirect.com]
> Sent: 17 December 2004 18:40
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] send in the clones
>
>
> Nobody in any country uses the term Intelligent in any conceited
> way, it's more pun if anything. For someone to think Americans
> actually use the word in a literal pedestal fashion is absurd.
> Furthermore, Americans didn't even come up with it, heh. :)
>
> -sine
>
> On 17 Dec 2004 at 18:11, Paul Thomas wrote:
>
> > I thought that idm is just a ghey label thought up by conceted Americans
> > who feel the need to categorize their tastes in some kind of self
> > important way. Over here in the UK if you use the words "Intelligent
> > Dance Music" people will generally look at you very strangely indeed and
> > if I'm honest, quite rightly too, I think... What makes certain music
> > more 'intelligent'?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Cody Tubbs (wISPdirect) wrote:
> >
> > >Nothing has to be limited, but IDM does have it's own elements. When
> artists have
> > >all of these elements including loads that have nothing todo with the
> genre, that's
> > >when they sortof become something of their own. It may be nitpicky to
> say they
> > >aren't, but it was just too much lyrical guitar rock to me. I may be
> wrong though, I
> > >just distinctly remember not liking how much they sounded like the virgin
> suicide
> > >soundtrack that Air did. And to just push them into the idm genre
> because they have
> > >a bit of idm relation INSIDE of loads that's not isn't really justified,
> they might as well
> > >be pushed into something else. Nobody is even talking about autechre or
> aphex
> > >clones, I'm talking about indie/post rock bands that are using mad
> electronics now
> > >taking their own turn, not becoming idm, but becoming something of their
> own.
> > >
> > >-sine@IntelligentDanceMusic.com
> > >
> > >On 17 Dec 2004 at 9:47, chthonic wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>>I'm not familiar with Air enough to say.
> > >>>
> > >>>But aesthetically I'd count M83's sound as tangential to alot of
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>IDM.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>They are as heavily electronic and independant-minded,
> > >>>which is really the only definition of IDM i can come up with.
> > >>>
> > >>>Don't mean to nitpick - I just think of IDM as being
> > >>>a very general thing rather than limited to autechre clones.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>that's right - you have to include all the aphex twin clones too.
> > >>
> > >></snark>
> > >>
> > >>d.
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