Sorry mate, I call bullshit. The only other people I've ever heard using
the term is Americans, over the internet and I've been in plenty of places
where it would have been used. Also, the reply : "Oh we were being ironic,
didn't you know... <cue pitying glace>" is pretty poor.
Paul
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From: CTubbs [mailto:tubbs@wispdirect.com]
Sent: 17 December 2004 18:40
To: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [idm] send in the clones
Nobody in any country uses the term Intelligent in any conceited
way, it's more pun if anything. For someone to think Americans
actually use the word in a literal pedestal fashion is absurd.
Furthermore, Americans didn't even come up with it, heh. :)
-sine
On 17 Dec 2004 at 18:11, Paul Thomas wrote:
quoted 12 lines I thought that idm is just a ghey label thought up by conceted Americans
> I thought that idm is just a ghey label thought up by conceted Americans
> who feel the need to categorize their tastes in some kind of self
> important way. Over here in the UK if you use the words "Intelligent
> Dance Music" people will generally look at you very strangely indeed and
> if I'm honest, quite rightly too, I think... What makes certain music
> more 'intelligent'?
>
> Paul
>
> Cody Tubbs (wISPdirect) wrote:
>
> >Nothing has to be limited, but IDM does have it's own elements. When
artists have
quoted 1 line all of these elements including loads that have nothing todo with the
> >all of these elements including loads that have nothing todo with the
genre, that's
quoted 1 line when they sortof become something of their own. It may be nitpicky to
> >when they sortof become something of their own. It may be nitpicky to
say they
quoted 1 line aren't, but it was just too much lyrical guitar rock to me. I may be
> >aren't, but it was just too much lyrical guitar rock to me. I may be
wrong though, I
quoted 1 line just distinctly remember not liking how much they sounded like the virgin
> >just distinctly remember not liking how much they sounded like the virgin
suicide
quoted 1 line soundtrack that Air did. And to just push them into the idm genre
> >soundtrack that Air did. And to just push them into the idm genre
because they have
quoted 1 line a bit of idm relation INSIDE of loads that's not isn't really justified,
> >a bit of idm relation INSIDE of loads that's not isn't really justified,
they might as well
quoted 1 line be pushed into something else. Nobody is even talking about autechre or
> >be pushed into something else. Nobody is even talking about autechre or
aphex
quoted 1 line clones, I'm talking about indie/post rock bands that are using mad
> >clones, I'm talking about indie/post rock bands that are using mad
electronics now
quoted 1 line taking their own turn, not becoming idm, but becoming something of their
> >taking their own turn, not becoming idm, but becoming something of their
own.
quoted 58 lines -sine@IntelligentDanceMusic.com
> >
> >-sine@IntelligentDanceMusic.com
> >
> >On 17 Dec 2004 at 9:47, chthonic wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>>I'm not familiar with Air enough to say.
> >>>
> >>>But aesthetically I'd count M83's sound as tangential to alot of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>IDM.
> >>
> >>
> >>>They are as heavily electronic and independant-minded,
> >>>which is really the only definition of IDM i can come up with.
> >>>
> >>>Don't mean to nitpick - I just think of IDM as being
> >>>a very general thing rather than limited to autechre clones.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>that's right - you have to include all the aphex twin clones too.
> >>
> >></snark>
> >>
> >>d.
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