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1999-07-05 15:20Eddie Symons Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
└─ 1999-07-06 08:53Konstantin Minko RE: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
1999-07-06 15:00david turgeon Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
└─ 1999-07-07 09:28Konstantin Minko RE: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
1999-07-07 13:41gideon Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
└─ 1999-07-07 14:52zimbo Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
└─ 1999-07-07 15:53Irene McC (idm) i write the songs ... barry manilow ?!
1999-07-07 17:18Re: (idm) i write the songs ... barry manilow ?!
└─ 1999-07-08 09:30Irene McC Re: (idm) i write the songs ... barry manilow ?!
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1999-07-05 15:20Eddie SymonsWhile I'm thinking about squarepusher, anyone care to suggest some good stuff by any other
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While I'm thinking about squarepusher, anyone care to suggest some good stuff by any other artists that's similar to Big Loada? Eddie
1999-07-06 08:53Konstantin MinkoI think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do. > -----Original Message----- > Fro
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I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do.
quoted 13 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:idm-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Eddie Symons > Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 6:21 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations > > > While I'm thinking about squarepusher, anyone care to suggest some good > stuff by any other artists that's similar to Big Loada? > > Eddie >
1999-07-06 15:00david turgeon> I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do. > > While I'm thinking about squ
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quoted 3 lines I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do.> I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do. > > While I'm thinking about squarepusher, anyone care to suggest some good > > stuff by any other artists that's similar to Big Loada?
beg to differ -- clifford gilberto might be akin to 'music is rotted one note' but as far as i know certainly not to 'big loada'. i wouldn't recommend gilberto to anyone unless they know what they're getting into (i.e. fusion wank). -- david turgeon at http://www.notype.com
1999-07-07 09:28Konstantin Minko> > I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do. > > > While I'm thinking about
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quoted 9 lines I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do.> > I think Clifford Gilberto Rhythm Combination should do. > > > While I'm thinking about squarepusher, anyone care to suggest > some good > > > stuff by any other artists that's similar to Big Loada? > > beg to differ -- clifford gilberto might be akin to 'music is rotted one > note' but as far as i know certainly not to 'big loada'. i wouldn't > recommend gilberto to anyone unless they know what they're getting into > (i.e. fusion wank).
I agree that big loada is less like Clifford but for me it is the closest rival to Tom's early works. IMHO And of course I cannot agree on music rotted one note akin to Clifford. It is not in any way. As it is not akin to his own earlier works. I think he just decided to say: "Fuck with you all, I'm a free artist and not a pre-order pop star". If it is so, I'm with him (though I still cannot dig this one). Alien np. Red Snapper "Prince Blimey"
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1999-07-07 13:41gideon> And of course I cannot agree on music rotted one note akin to Clifford. It > is not in a
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quoted 5 lines And of course I cannot agree on music rotted one note akin to Clifford. It> And of course I cannot agree on music rotted one note akin to Clifford. It > is not in any way. As it is not akin to his own earlier works. I think he > just decided to say: "Fuck with you all, I'm a free artist and not a > pre-order pop star". If it is so, I'm with him (though I still cannot dig > this one).
It really trips me out that so many people on the list don't live "muisc is one rotted note." The first time I heard it I flipped... I still love it. It has such a great blend of grooves+noise+drums. Would it be safe to say that most of you also don't enjoy Miles Davis? "Music is" has such a "bitches brew" vibe to it - it also parallels several of the Live Miles CDs (which are a pleasure to listen to!). Or maybe it all has to do with the fact that "Music is" goes where electronic music doesn't usually go and that the tracks are more like jams or even songs - as opposed to is other blippy/303madness/superchopo-drum-freaks/occasional-bass-noodle tracks. "Music is" was the 1st Squarepusher CD I bought - and now, 8 months or so later, I've purchased almost everything he has released (I have a feeling there are some underlying beta wave transmissions in his songs which have programmed my brain to become addicted to his music!). The album seems so ORGANIC, so alive, I can close my eyes and see him playing this stuff. AH I wish I could see him perform... but we all know about that from that one guy's post months ago... the great "Squarepusher live review AN ANGRY FLAME" from May 1999 From: Crtrdge003@aol.com Ah... now that was a thread :) Ok... time for coffee! Good day to all. -- Hasta, Gideon ............................................ Sonic Wallpaper http://www.sonicwallpaper.com http://www.mp3.com/sonicwallpaper Tragic Furniture http://www.mp3.com/tragicfurniture CatalystMedia Corporation http://www.CatalystMedia.com ............................................
1999-07-07 14:52zimboOn Wed, 7 Jul 1999, gideon wrote: > Or maybe it all has to do with the fact that "Music is
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On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, gideon wrote:
quoted 4 lines Or maybe it all has to do with the fact that "Music is" goes where> Or maybe it all has to do with the fact that "Music is" goes where > electronic music doesn't usually go and that the tracks are more like > jams or even songs - as opposed to is other > blippy/303madness/superchopo-drum-freaks/occasional-bass-noodle tracks.
please define: "song". please site examples and references. i was under the impression all the idm stuff i had was in the form of song. thanks! chris.
1999-07-07 15:53Irene McCOn 7 Jul 99, zimbo wrote re: Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendation: > please define: "song".
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On 7 Jul 99, zimbo wrote re: Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendation:
quoted 1 line please define: "song".> please define: "song".
OED : a musical composition for singing. I *
1999-07-07 17:18giles.ward@postoffice.co.ukSubject (idm) i write the songs ... barry manilow ?! On 7 Jul 99, zimbo wrote re: Re: (idm
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Subject (idm) i write the songs ... barry manilow ?! On 7 Jul 99, zimbo wrote re: Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendation:
quoted 1 line please define: "song".> please define: "song".
OED : a musical composition for singing. I * Yep.. songs have lyrics and are sung. But people don't like that in IDM songs do they? ;-)
1999-07-08 09:30Irene McCOn 7 Jul 99, giles.ward@postoffice.co.uk wrote re: Re: (idm) i write the songs ... bar: >
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On 7 Jul 99, giles.ward@postoffice.co.uk wrote re: Re: (idm) i write the songs ... bar:
quoted 2 lines Yep.. songs have lyrics and are sung. But people don't like that in IDM> Yep.. songs have lyrics and are sung. But people don't like that in IDM > songs do they? ;-)
Yes - I think that is so, but the querent was asking for a definition of "song" and in my book a song is a (melodic) piece of music with words which is to be sung. Sing, sang, sung, song - etymologically they all hang together. So the IDM music we listen to generally is/are best described as "tracks" rather than "songs". Thassall. I *