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1997-03-18 17:54really? (idm) old school hiphop
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1997-03-18 17:54really?could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or albums? what are
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could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or albums? what are the must-haves, and what is still available? i realize this is not exactly idm... feel free to reply by private email if you prefer. thanks lots dan. obligatory idm content: autechre revealed their 10 favourite records in spex this month... i'll put it up on the list if anyone's interested
1997-03-18 18:19Brian & Sharon BeuchawOn Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote: > ... > dan. > obligatory idm content: autechre reveal
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On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote:
quoted 4 lines ...> ... > dan. > obligatory idm content: autechre revealed their 10 favourite records in spex > this month... i'll put it up on the list if anyone's interested
Of course we're interested - please post.... cya brian
1997-03-19 06:21Eric FransOn Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote: } could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop
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On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote: } could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or } albums? what are the must-haves, and what is still available? } i realize this is not exactly idm... feel free to reply by private email if } you prefer. This is more IDM than most of the posts recently, so.... These must-haves should still be available: ERIC B. & RAKIM - Follow The Leader ERIC B. & RAKIM - Paid In Full EPMD - Strictly Business PARIS - The Devil Made Me Do It PUBLIC ENEMY - Yo! Bum Rush The Show These must-haves are out of print probably, but check the used bins: MANTRONIX - Music Madness MANTRONIX - Mantronix RUN D.M.C. - RUN D.M.C. I hope this helps! | E r i c | [mail] franse@engr.arizona.edu | | F r a n s | [web] http://intermix.engr.arizona.edu/~franse | "Make the events occur that you want to occur" - The Black Dog on: Flextone
1997-03-19 04:15Styrolene vaT> could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or > albums? Erik
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quoted 2 lines could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or> could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or > albums?
Erik B and Rakim 'Paid In Full', this has got to be one of the most sampled records ever e.g. 'Pump up the volume' 'Thinking of a master plan' etc etc etc etc Buy it. kF
1997-03-19 14:17Erkki Rautio> > could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or > > albums? >
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quoted 11 lines could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or> > could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations and/or > > albums? > > Erik B and Rakim 'Paid In Full', this has got to be one > of the most sampled records ever e.g. > > 'Pump up the volume' > 'Thinking of a master plan' > etc etc etc etc > > Buy it.
Has anyone mentioned the recent 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' compilation already? (Sorry if I've missed it but I hit the 'D' key a lot these days with the postings to this list). It has the Coldcut mix of 'Paid In Full' and just all these late-80's classics. Unmissable.
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1997-03-19 15:34transmat@teleport.comErkki says... >Has anyone mentioned the recent 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' compilation >alre
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quoted 5 lines Has anyone mentioned the recent 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' compilation>Has anyone mentioned the recent 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' compilation >already? (Sorry if I've missed it but I hit the 'D' key a lot these days >with the postings to this list). It has the Coldcut mix of 'Paid In >Full' and just all these late-80's classics. Unmissable. >
tell us more!!..catalogue number ..etc... _____________________________ ~bleep~
1997-03-20 10:43Erkki Rautio> Erkki says... > > >Has anyone mentioned the recent 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' compilation
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quoted 8 lines Erkki says...> Erkki says... > > >Has anyone mentioned the recent 4-LP 'Hip Hop Don't Stop' compilation > >already? (Sorry if I've missed it but I hit the 'D' key a lot these days > >with the postings to this list). It has the Coldcut mix of 'Paid In > >Full' and just all these late-80's classics. Unmissable. > > > tell us more!!..catalogue number ..etc...
Various Hip Hop Don't Stop (4-LP) SOLIDLP6 Solidstate (UK) 1997 (Distributed by Vital) DISC 01 Side A 01 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full (Seven Minutes of Madness - The Coldcut Mix) 02 A Tribe Called Quest - Can I Kick It 03 J.V.C. F.O.R.C.E. - Strong Island Side B 01 Rob Base & DJ EZ Rock - It Takes Two 02 Doug Lazy - Let It Roll (Vocal Mix) 03 Twin Hype - For Those Who Like To Groove (Club Groove Remix) 04 House of Pain - Jump DISC 02 Side C 01 Digital Underground - Doowutchalike (Playhowyalike Mix) 02 Caveman - I'm Ready 03 Boogie Down Productions - My Philosophy Side D 01 Naughty By Nature - O.P.P. (Vocal) 02 Stetsasonic - Talkin' All That Jazz (Original 12") 03 Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - Mistadobalina 04 Beastie Boys - Hold It Now, Hit It DISC 03 Side E 01 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight 02 Gang Starr - Just To Get A Rep Side F 01 De La Soul - Eye Know (Know It All Mix) 02 Eric B & Rakim - I Know You Got Soul (Double Trouble Remix) 03 Run DMC - Peter Piper DISC 04 Side G 01 King Bee - Back By Dope Demand (Funky Bass Mix) 02 Mantronix - Who Is It? (Dance Mix) 03 The 45 King - The 900 Number 04 Chubb Rock - Treat 'Em Right (Original 12" Mix) Side H 01 Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - The Message 02 Kid N Play - Last Night 03 Young MC - Know How 04 Roxanne Shante - Have A Nice Day Solidstate E-mail: dope@newstate.demon.co.uk
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1997-03-20 15:12ryan|b|shawi might as well add an often overlooked, ahead-of-its-time classic: jungle brothers: _j.be
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i might as well add an often overlooked, ahead-of-its-time classic: jungle brothers: _j.beez with the remedy_ the bill laswell-produced mindfuck, featuring eigth dimension jams like "spittin' wicked randomness." almost universally reviled by hiphop headz upon release, will surely join the ranks of two other "terrible" albums that pushed the envelope too soon and later were hailed as masterpieces: beastie boys: _paul's boutique_ and de la soul: _de la soul is dead_. r|b|s
1997-03-20 19:10random junkOn 20-Mar-97 ryan|b|shaw wrote: > >i might as well add an often overlooked, ahead-of-its-t
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quoted 4 lines i might as well add an often overlooked, ahead-of-its-time classic:> >i might as well add an often overlooked, ahead-of-its-time classic: > >jungle brothers: _j.beez with the remedy_
oh yeah, gotta second this one. this album puts the TRIP right back in hop. and it came out several years before the mo'wax guys ever put a needle to vinyl. freaky and wonderful. i see it in the cut out bins all the time so get off your butt and GET THIS. Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- System Administrator SpotMedia Communications
1997-03-20 08:58Joshua Wilson> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote: > } could anyone recommend some decent old school hi
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quoted 2 lines On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote:> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, really? wrote: > } could anyone recommend some decent old school hiphop compilations
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quoted 2 lines } albums? what are the must-haves, and what is still available?> } albums? what are the must-haves, and what is still available? > } i realize this is not exactly idm... feel free to reply by private
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not as strictly old-school but also worth looking for is the recently reissued Critical Beatdown by the ULTRAMAGNETIC MC'S Josh
1997-03-20 15:33PhilEErkki says... > Various > Hip Hop Don't Stop (4-LP) > SOLIDLP6 > Solidstate (UK) > 1997 Al
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quoted 5 lines Various> Various > Hip Hop Don't Stop (4-LP) > SOLIDLP6 > Solidstate (UK) > 1997
Also: Hip Hop Don't Stop (2-CD) SOLIDSCD6 Solidstate (UK) 1997 Same tracks, slightly different order. There's a ltd cardboard sleeve, and a normal 2CD box version. Phil Sex and horror are the new gods.
1997-03-20 21:57Marcelspeaking of old school anyone listened to the boxed set put out by Sugarhill not long ago?
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speaking of old school anyone listened to the boxed set put out by Sugarhill not long ago? What are the opinions on this. Also anyone know how many CDs are in the collection? I know the vinyl is 5, but I don't buy vinyl (yeah, I should, but I have to eat). gil
1997-03-21 12:26BlipvertMarcel wrote: > > speaking of old school > anyone listened to the boxed set put out by Sug
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quoted 6 lines speaking of old school> > speaking of old school > anyone listened to the boxed set put out by Sugarhill not long ago? > What are the opinions on this. Also anyone know how many CDs are in the > collection? I know the vinyl is 5, but I don't buy vinyl (yeah, I should, but I have > to eat).
I was wondering how long it would take someone to mention this. I didn't because I have grown tired of evangelising about electro and hip-hop to this list. It is a great compilation consisting of five CDs, one 12" containing new remixes and a great liner note book that contains the history of Sugarhill as viewed by several different writers. This boxed set and the Rhino Street Jams: Electro Funk and Street Jams: Hip-Hop From the Top are the places to start for old school hip-hop (and the roots of electronica, there, I said it again).
1997-03-21 04:52moonbaby@serv.netThe Sugarhill box is quite fine. If anybody's interested, I'm posting my review, which inc
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The Sugarhill box is quite fine. If anybody's interested, I'm posting my review, which includes a complete track listing for all five CDs. VARIOUS ARTISTS: The Sugar Hill Records Story Reviewed by DJ Johnson If you worked at a radio station in the 80s, you couldn't help but see those Sugar Hill 12 inch records in the "out" pile. White pop radio stations weren't gonna play that stuff, so out it went. One of the perks of radio is you can take stuff home when the station doesn't want it. I must have had three dozen Sugar Hill 12's, and I sure wish I knew where they were today. Sugar Hill was one of the most beloved labels of its time, and also one of the most reviled, depending on who you asked. It was labeled "rap," and while there was certainly some rappin' going on, most of this music was hip hop. They just didn't know what to call it, at first. Unlike much of today's rap, this music was drenched in funk with deep grooves everywhere. Grandmaster Flash, Busy Bee, Sylvia, Crash Crew, Trouble Funk, Super-Wolf, The Sugarhill Gang, West Street Mob, Funky 4 + 1, The Sequence, Spoonie Gee, the fantabulous Melle Mel and others created street music for the people that pop forgot. In the years before self-indulgent egotism reduced most rap to penis-measurement contests, there was this thing called social commentary--a GOOD thing that is all over this set--in which disaffected youths would voice their concerns about life in their neck of the world. A great example is "The Message," by Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five. (As opposed to The Funky Four or The Treacherous Three, both of which also appear in this set.) Flash describes the fight against insanity in an insane world. "Don't push me cuz I'm close to the edge. I'm trying not to lose my head. It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from going under." By the way, that particular track appears on disc three, AND on the special bonus disc...or platter, in this case. Yep! Hot damn! Rhino's thrown in a 12 inch EP--I'm talkin' bout the real thing, baby. Vinyl!--with four versions of The Message. If that's not cool enough, they used the original 12 inch cover design: solid light blue with Sugar Hill spelled out in a twisting, multi-colored candy cane! Meeeeeemorieeees... Just about every artist appears multiple times, and some of them have enough tracks to rate their own disc. (But they mixed it up just for fun, y'know?) Grandmaster Flash, The Sugarhill Gang, and Melle Mel are all over the five discs, but that's fair since they were also all over the Sugar Hill release roster in days of yore. No bitching here. The track selection is brilliant. The set comes with great liner notes that tell the story nearly as well as the music does. As usual, Rhino went all out. Gotta love that Urban dept! Most of the versions included in this box set are not the dinky little AM radio edits. These are 8 and 10 minute tracks filled with great grooves and brutal beats. Funk fans who never gave this stuff a chance really need to do so now. If they can't find something to like, I don't want to know what the funk THEY were listening to. TRACK LIST DISC ONE: Rapper's Delight (Sugarhill Gang) * Funk You Up (The Sequence) * Rapper's Reprise (Sugarhill Gang) * Super-Wolf Can Do It (Super-Wolf) * Hot Hot Summer Day (Sugarhill Gang) * And You Know That (The Sequence) * Freedom (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five) * Monster Jam (Spoonie Gee meets The Sequence) * Baby Let's Rap Now (The Moments) * People Get On Up (Positive Force) DISC TWO: 8th Wonder (The Sugarhill Gang) * That's The Joint (Funky 4 + 1) * The Birthday Party (Grandmaster Flash) * Check It Out (Wayne & Charlie, The Rapping Dummy) * The Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash On The Wheels Of Steel (Grandmaster Flash) * Showdown (The Furious Five meets The Sugarhill Gang) * Let's Dance (Make Your Body Move) (West Street Mob) * Spoonie Is Back (Spoonie Gee) * Apache (Sugarhill Gang) * It's Nasty (Genius Of Love) (Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five) DISC THREE: Hi Fellas (Trouble Funk) * Sing A Simple Song (West Street Mob) * It's Good To Be The Queen (Sylvia) * The Lover In You (Sugarhill Gang) * The Message (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five) * Whip It (Treacherous Three) * Scratching (Crash Crew) * Ooh Baby (West Street Mob) * Scorpio (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five) * Making Cash Money (Busy Bee) * Here Comes The Bridge (Sequence) DISC FOUR: Message II (Melle Mel & Duke Bootee) * Breaking Bells (Take Me To The Mardi Gras) (Crash Crew) * Yes We Can-Can (Treacherous Three) * The Word Is Our (Sugarhill Gang) * New York New York (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five) * Girls (Sugarhill Gang) * Kick It Live From 9 To 5 (Sugerhill Gang) * Break Dance Electric Boogie (West Street Mob) * All Night Long (Waterbed) (Kevie Kev) * At The Ice Arcade (Chilly Kids) * White Lines (Don't Don't Do It) (Grandmaster & Melle Mel) * We Are Known As Emcees (We Turn Party's Out) (Crash Crew) DISC FIVE: Jesse (Grandmaster Melle Mel) * Beat Street (Grandmaster Melle Mel & The Furious Five) * Livin' In The Fast Lane (Sugarhill Gang) * We Don't Work For Free (Grandmaster Melle Mel & The Furious Five) * Step Off (The Furious Five featuring Cowboy, Melle Mel & Scorpio) * Xmas Rap (Uncensored version) (Treacherous Three) * Busy Bee's Groove (Busy Bee) * Turn It Up (Treacherous Three) * The Down Beat (Sugarhill Gang) * Vice (from Miami Vice) (Grandmaster Melle Mel) * Outta Control (Miracle Mike & The Ladies Of The 80s) * Street Walker (Mass Production with Grandmaster Melle Mel) * The Message ('97 Dungeon Mix) (Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five) (C) 1997 - Cosmik Debris E-Zine ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ Johnson - Editor, Cosmik Debris E-Zine Now at http://www.cosmik.com/cosmikdebris Cosmik Debris: If we were a fight, they'd stop it! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------