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it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much credibility do you need an object to have? On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines before getting this:

> > > before getting this: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150024826970 > > i'd like some advice on how credible these things can be, especially if im > dropping a wad of cash on it. > > any advice? thanks in advance for your responses > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897411 > Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the slipcase itself for all i know it could be a sticker tacked onto a trance record by "DJ Fiyah-breaks"! have you ever bought a so-called test pressing, are they supposed to look so banal? and yes i judge by covers, so don't bring it up. i know. i'd just like if you could speak of any experience you've had buying such a record. thanks in advance. Ed Hoc wrote:

quoted 40 lines it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much

> > it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much > credibility do you need an object to have? > > On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> before getting this: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150024826970 >> >> i'd like some advice on how credible these things can be, especially if >> im >> dropping a wad of cash on it. >> >> any advice? thanks in advance for your responses >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897411 >> Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > -- > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that > cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > message. > > ---- > > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > >

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test pressings look like records with nothing on them, except possibly some scribbled garbage or code numbers. see also white label. except, that's not what you're asking. what you're asking is: 'do you think i should believe that the person selling this recording is attempting to deceive me about it's contents?' if you're having trouble with that you really shouldn't be using ebay. On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 70 lines simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the

> > > simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the > slipcase itself > for all i know it could be a sticker tacked onto a trance record by "DJ > Fiyah-breaks"! > > have you ever bought a so-called test pressing, are they supposed to look > so > banal? > and yes i judge by covers, so don't bring it up. i know. i'd just like if > you could speak of any experience you've had buying such a record. thanks > in > advance. > > > Ed Hoc wrote: > > > > it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much > > credibility do you need an object to have? > > > > On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> before getting this: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150024826970 > >> > >> i'd like some advice on how credible these things can be, especially if > >> im > >> dropping a wad of cash on it. > >> > >> any advice? thanks in advance for your responses > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897411 > >> Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that > > cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > > message. > > > > ---- > > > > pete lastname > > meatsock@gmail.com > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897486 > Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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It's very apparent that you have little experience with test pressings. In fact, they are for TESTING and not for SELLING generally so they look very banal. If you want non-banal looking discs buy consumer grade vinyl discs or CDs or even tapes and n5md did some minidiscs that had nice packaging. Some tests don't even have white label stickers at all. Wait, what's this you speak of? White labels? Is that where that term came from? This is all nonsense. channeling meatsock, dick e:rection On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 65 lines simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the

> > simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the > slipcase itself > for all i know it could be a sticker tacked onto a trance record by "DJ > Fiyah-breaks"! > > have you ever bought a so-called test pressing, are they supposed to look so > banal? > and yes i judge by covers, so don't bring it up. i know. i'd just like if > you could speak of any experience you've had buying such a record. thanks in > advance. > > > Ed Hoc wrote: > > > > it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much > > credibility do you need an object to have? > > > > On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> before getting this: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150024826970 > >> > >> i'd like some advice on how credible these things can be, especially if > >> im > >> dropping a wad of cash on it. > >> > >> any advice? thanks in advance for your responses > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897411 > >> Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that > > cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > > message. > > > > ---- > > > > pete lastname > > meatsock@gmail.com > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897486 > Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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not to mention -- test pressings are TEST pressings, not the final product, so the content on each one may have any number of fuckups they went back and smoothed out before the final product released. On 8/20/06, rickreaction <rickreaction@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 103 lines It's very apparent that you have little experience with test

> > It's very apparent that you have little experience with test > pressings. In fact, they are for TESTING and not for SELLING > generally so they look very banal. If you want non-banal looking > discs buy consumer grade vinyl discs or CDs or even tapes and n5md did > some minidiscs that had nice packaging. Some tests don't even have > white label stickers at all. Wait, what's this you speak of? White > labels? Is that where that term came from? This is all nonsense. > > channeling meatsock, > dick e:rection > > On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and > the > > slipcase itself > > for all i know it could be a sticker tacked onto a trance record by "DJ > > Fiyah-breaks"! > > > > have you ever bought a so-called test pressing, are they supposed to > look so > > banal? > > and yes i judge by covers, so don't bring it up. i know. i'd just like > if > > you could speak of any experience you've had buying such a record. > thanks in > > advance. > > > > > > Ed Hoc wrote: > > > > > > it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much > > > credibility do you need an object to have? > > > > > > On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> before getting this: > > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150024826970 > > >> > > >> i'd like some advice on how credible these things can be, especially > if > > >> im > > >> dropping a wad of cash on it. > > >> > > >> any advice? thanks in advance for your responses > > >> -- > > >> View this message in context: > > >> > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897411 > > >> Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address > that > > > cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > > > message. > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > pete lastname > > > meatsock@gmail.com > > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897486 > > Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > -- > Rick "re:action" Sinkiewicz > 585 Little City Road > Higganum, CT 06441 USA > > Booking: http://www.manicproductions.org > > Friends Chairperson: http://www.wesufm.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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That's what test pressings look like. They're given to the customer by the pressing house so the label reps or artist can verify that everything is okay with the plates before the order is run. There's not going to be any art or anything - just a cat number on the label, maybe the project name, maybe the mastering engineer. Buyer beware, of course, but if you're scared because it looks skint don't worry. Test pressings are meant to look skint. On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 71 lines simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the

> > > simply, it looks way too generic, speaking of the art on the disc, and the > slipcase itself > for all i know it could be a sticker tacked onto a trance record by "DJ > Fiyah-breaks"! > > have you ever bought a so-called test pressing, are they supposed to look > so > banal? > and yes i judge by covers, so don't bring it up. i know. i'd just like if > you could speak of any experience you've had buying such a record. thanks > in > advance. > > > Ed Hoc wrote: > > > > it looks like a record to me. i bet it plays in circles - how much > > credibility do you need an object to have? > > > > On 8/20/06, thundahthighs <dlegrabb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> before getting this: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150024826970 > >> > >> i'd like some advice on how credible these things can be, especially if > > >> im > >> dropping a wad of cash on it. > >> > >> any advice? thanks in advance for your responses > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897411 > >> Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that > > cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this > > message. > > > > ---- > > > > pete lastname > > meatsock@gmail.com > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/test-pressings%2C-fact-or-fiction--tf2137003.html#a5897486 > Sent from the IDM forum at Nabble.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays. Depending on what head/stylus you use. Maybe it was played already? A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

--> 'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays. --> Depending on what head/stylus you use. --> Maybe it was played already? --> A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long. i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings; perhaps your experiences w/ such are products of a particular plant? -geoff/drbmd -- badtastesucks.com badtaste4life.com animalswithinanimals.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 7 lines --> 'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays

>--> 'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays. >--> Depending on what head/stylus you use. >--> Maybe it was played already? >--> A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long. > >i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings; >perhaps your experiences w/ such are products of a particular plant?

they might be confusing tests and acetates... I've used test pressings extensively while DJing... and they don't seem more susceptible to damage than any other record. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I wasn't referring to white labels. So I guess I got the wrong end of the stick. dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com> wrote: >--> 'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays.

quoted 6 lines --> Depending on what head/stylus you use.

>--> Depending on what head/stylus you use. >--> Maybe it was played already? >--> A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long. > >i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings; >perhaps your experiences w/ such are products of a particular plant?

they might be confusing tests and acetates... I've used test pressings extensively while DJing... and they don't seem more susceptible to damage than any other record. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

I wasn't referring to white labels either... a lot of my friends produce, and I've been passed a lot of test pressings over the years. For example, oOne of my copies of Shitfuckers by Venetian Snares is definately a test (has a date stamped sleeve - and hub-serval test pressing labels)... and I've juggled the shit out of that record - without any issues. Also have a bunch of old WaxTrax! test pressings and the like... Years back, Massive Magazine did an interview with one of the guys from National Sound in Detroit... he went into pretty good detail about misconceptions regarding test pressings, white labels and acetates... how to handle them and what their lifespan is like. Clean needles, clean hands and keeping your fingers off the playing surface = test pressing holding up.

quoted 34 lines From: Papa Lazarou <circuit_bender@yahoo.com>

>From: Papa Lazarou <circuit_bender@yahoo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] test pressings, fact or fiction? >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:05:05 -0700 (PDT) > >I wasn't referring to white labels. So I guess I got the wrong end of the >stick. > >dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com> wrote: >--> 'If' you're going to play >it, it will last 'about' 5 plays. > >--> Depending on what head/stylus you use. > >--> Maybe it was played already? > >--> A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long. > > > >i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings; > >perhaps your experiences w/ such are products of a particular plant? > >they might be confusing tests and acetates... > >I've used test pressings extensively while DJing... and they don't seem >more >susceptible to damage than any other record. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >--------------------------------- >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

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haha showoff! =P On 8/23/06, dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines . For example,

> > . For example, > oOne of my copies of Shitfuckers by Venetian Snares is definately a test

OK, for the sake of pedantry, let's just say dubplate. ;) dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com> wrote: I wasn't referring to white labels either... a lot of my friends produce, and I've been passed a lot of test pressings over the years. For example, oOne of my copies of Shitfuckers by Venetian Snares is definately a test (has a date stamped sleeve - and hub-serval test pressing labels)... and I've juggled the shit out of that record - without any issues. Also have a bunch of old WaxTrax! test pressings and the like... Years back, Massive Magazine did an interview with one of the guys from National Sound in Detroit... he went into pretty good detail about misconceptions regarding test pressings, white labels and acetates... how to handle them and what their lifespan is like. Clean needles, clean hands and keeping your fingers off the playing surface = test pressing holding up.

quoted 34 lines From: Papa Lazarou

>From: Papa Lazarou >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] test pressings, fact or fiction? >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:05:05 -0700 (PDT) > >I wasn't referring to white labels. So I guess I got the wrong end of the >stick. > >dj fishead wrote: >--> 'If' you're going to play >it, it will last 'about' 5 plays. > >--> Depending on what head/stylus you use. > >--> Maybe it was played already? > >--> A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long. > > > >i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings; > >perhaps your experiences w/ such are products of a particular plant? > >they might be confusing tests and acetates... > >I've used test pressings extensively while DJing... and they don't seem >more >susceptible to damage than any other record. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >--------------------------------- >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

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sounds like confusion between dub plates and test pressings... j -------------- Original message ----------------------

quoted 5 lines --> 'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays

> > --> 'If' you're going to play it, it will last 'about' 5 plays. > --> Depending on what head/stylus you use. > --> Maybe it was played already? > --> A test pressing's listening quality doesn't last very long.

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quoted 7 lines i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings;

> > i've never had this issue before w/ test pressings; > perhaps your experiences w/ such are products of a particular plant? > > -geoff/drbmd > > --

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