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Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake

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2005-02-17 03:12beatsploitation RE: [idm] Autechre's Newest (WAP180) - First Impressions.
└─ 2005-02-17 13:59Burton Samograd Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest (WAP180) - First Impressions.
└─ 2005-02-17 14:44bob thesock Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest (WAP180) - First Impressions.
└─ 2005-02-17 15:28max Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
└─ 2005-02-17 18:57Greg Clow Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
2005-02-17 20:14Peter Heide Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
└─ 2005-02-17 22:03Mark Schieldrop RE: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
2005-02-17 22:09Josh Steiner Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
2005-02-18 20:57Jeff Birgbauer RE: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
└─ 2005-02-18 21:34max [idm] Autechre @ Mezzanine
├─ 2005-02-18 23:05Eric Sorenson Re: [idm] Autechre @ Mezzanine
└─ 2005-02-19 01:43StaticBeats Re: [idm] Autechre @ Mezzanine
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2005-02-17 03:12beatsploitationI got sent both versions without me asking for some reason ... as if I'd know an authentic
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I got sent both versions without me asking for some reason ... as if I'd know an authentic autechre album from a pickled egg. If anyone who posts here that doesn't have a copy of the first 2 leaked/probably/possibly faked/outtakes/catch the journo versions by now and *really* wants them then just tell me how to work the userlist bit of soulseek ... I can never be bothered to RTFM. but to be honest... the first one is nothing to get worked up about and I haven't got round to listening to the other one yet, too much to do ... got a live set to sort out for tomorrow. do you really give a fuk? honestly? blind tests make arseholes of everyone as far as I remember :) just buy the fuking thing when it comes out. cheers sorry tim & ken ... it seems so amusing when you're a bit drunk. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 13:59Burton Samogradi have two versions, the first being warp180 (or the newest one, as i like to call it) and
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i have two versions, the first being warp180 (or the newest one, as i like to call it) and the other being Autechre_2005, which is up on uber-doom.com. They both share the same first track, but the 2005 version definetly diverges after that is is totally fake. The only way it could be AE would be if they threw out all thier synths, got a completely new sample library and...uh...forgot how to write their own music. warp180 *does* sound like them though, so i'm thinking that it is probably real. of course some dude gl0tch was in the IDM channel on soulseek last night going off about how he and some other guy wrote the first one and thanking all of us for the feedback (ha ha). of course he was probably lying, but it had to have been someone.... -- burton samograd kruhft@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 14:44bob thesocki picked this up on WATMM " the Autechre - Untilted hoax by Robert Martin of www.recordlab
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Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:44:11 -0800 (PST)
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i picked this up on WATMM " the Autechre - Untilted hoax by Robert Martin of www.recordlabelrecords.org After making the unintentionally sensational hoax video of an American hostage being beheaded in Iraq, and subsenquently having the video getting picked up by mainstream media news as a real "terrorist beheading," I realized the full potential of internet forgeries, especially when utilizing peer-to-peer file sharing networks. Like others, when I first heard the Untilted bfhmp3 version I questioned its authenticity. I used this mass confusion as an opportunity to create even more confusion, hence the "2nd version" of Untilted. This "2nd version" is actually a mishmash of some of my songs, combined with two tracks of the original leakedversion. Most of them are from an album that can be found here - http://www.recordlabelrecords.org/lotf.html. (mp3 clips up on site) My artist name is Fluorescent Grey. I finished the aforementioned album (lying on the floor...) long before Autechre's "Draft 7.30" was released. Many apologies if I offended anyone in the process of conducting this internet experiment. I am not intending to interfere with Autechre's album sales, in fact I am huge fan. I am humbled by so muchoftheir work, and was not attempting to portray my own work as better or equal. If you have a "notable" status like that of Autechre or another famous electronic musician, people tend to be much more open to liking the particular music you release, regardless of its quality. thanks Robbie e-mail me - videohoax@hotmail.com" --- Burton Samograd <kruhft@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 29 lines i have two versions, the first being warp180 (or the> i have two versions, the first being warp180 (or the > newest one, as i > like to call it) and the other being Autechre_2005, > which is up on > uber-doom.com. They both share the same first > track, but the 2005 > version definetly diverges after that is is totally > fake. The only > way it could be AE would be if they threw out all > thier synths, got a > completely new sample library and...uh...forgot how > to write their own > music. warp180 *does* sound like them though, so > i'm thinking that > it is probably real. > > of course some dude gl0tch was in the IDM channel on > soulseek last > night going off about how he and some other guy > wrote the first one > and thanking all of us for the feedback (ha ha). of > course he was > probably lying, but it had to have been someone.... > > -- > burton samograd > kruhft@gmail.com > >
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2005-02-17 15:28maxOn Feb 17, 2005, at 8:44 AM, bob thesock wrote: > i picked this up on WATMM > > " the Aute
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On Feb 17, 2005, at 8:44 AM, bob thesock wrote:
quoted 5 lines i picked this up on WATMM> i picked this up on WATMM > > " the Autechre - Untilted hoax > by Robert Martin of www.recordlabelrecords.org >
Not surprising since Analord fakes were being posted as early as summer last year... so is there an actual AE actually being posted, or is/are it/they complete fake/fakes?/?? np: fake AEs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 18:57Greg ClowAt 10:28 AM 17/02/2005, max wrote: >so is there an actual AE actually being posted, or is/
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At 10:28 AM 17/02/2005, max wrote:
quoted 2 lines so is there an actual AE actually being posted, or is/are it/they complete>so is there an actual AE actually being posted, or is/are it/they complete >fake/fakes?/??
I downloaded this one: 01.Lcc [07:46] 02.Ipacial Section [09:57] 03.Pro Radii [08:42] 04.Augmatic Disport [09:28] 05.Iera [04:55] 06.Fermium [05:44] 07.The Trees [07:26] 08.Sublimit [15:52] ------ 69:50 min 98,2 MB If it's a fake, then it's a good one, as it sounds like what I expected a new Autechre album to sound like. Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 20:14Peter HeideThis is the real one, no doubt about it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Clow" <gr
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This is the real one, no doubt about it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Clow" <greg@stainedproductions.com> To: "Idm@Hyperreal.Org" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre's Newest Fake
quoted 37 lines At 10:28 AM 17/02/2005, max wrote:> At 10:28 AM 17/02/2005, max wrote: >>so is there an actual AE actually being posted, or is/are it/they complete >>fake/fakes?/?? > > > I downloaded this one: > > 01.Lcc [07:46] > 02.Ipacial Section [09:57] > 03.Pro Radii [08:42] > 04.Augmatic Disport [09:28] > 05.Iera [04:55] > 06.Fermium [05:44] > 07.The Trees [07:26] > 08.Sublimit [15:52] > ------ > 69:50 min > 98,2 MB > > If it's a fake, then it's a good one, as it sounds like what I expected a > new Autechre album to sound like. > > > Greg > > > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com > ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com > :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com > ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com > ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2005-02-17 22:03Mark Schieldrop> This is the real one, no doubt about it Considering my copy is identical, and was obtain
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quoted 1 line This is the real one, no doubt about it> This is the real one, no doubt about it
Considering my copy is identical, and was obtained from a legit media outlet, I'd have to agree. It sounds like something Autechre would produce and has a lot of tell-tale signature nuances that I think make it pretty unquestionable. Looking back over the years, BHFMP3 is typically reliable when it comes to labeling. Also, based on my experience with past advance releases, including Daft 7.30, it fits the mold. We'll see a final release with perhaps some changes here and there, but because advances are like pre-release review copies for video games, we're not going to see an entirely different track listing and wholly different song compositions. Unless of course, Autechre and Warp decide to do things differently with the final release, which they certainly can. I think anyone scrambling to take credit for something is a cause for suspicion. - schieldrop --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-17 22:09Josh Steineri downloaded the mp3z from that site that were supposedly the same songs being redistribut
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i downloaded the mp3z from that site that were supposedly the same songs being redistributed as the autechre realses... i just flipped through them quickly, but while they had some stylistic similarities, none of them were the same as the 8 song "autechre" release. Mark Schieldrop wrote:
quoted 6 lines I think anyone scrambling to take credit for something is a cause for>I think anyone scrambling to take credit for something is a cause for >suspicion. > >- schieldrop > >
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2005-02-18 20:57Jeff Birgbauerwhere can i download this? thanks jeff http://www.autechre.info --------------------------
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2005-02-18 21:34maxWould like to get tickets to the AE show @ Mezzanine, SF... anybody got any helpful info?
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2005-02-18 23:05Eric SorensonOn Fri, 18 Feb 2005, max wrote: > Would like to get tickets to the AE show @ Mezzanine, SF
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, max wrote:
quoted 2 lines Would like to get tickets to the AE show @ Mezzanine, SF... anybody got any> Would like to get tickets to the AE show @ Mezzanine, SF... anybody got any > helpful info?
It's still a way off so I don't think anyobody's selling them yet, but usually Mezzanine shows are put on by blasthaus and tickets are available via paypal at their website (http://www.blasthaus.com/) -- they have a good announcement mailing list too. They hosted the Warp tour last year and really did a nice job. -- - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-19 01:43StaticBeatsNo show that I've ever been to Mezzanine has sold out (least of all an IDM show) so I'd st
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No show that I've ever been to Mezzanine has sold out (least of all an IDM show) so I'd stay posted to http://www.mezzanine.com (who have not updated their calendar for April) or just show up at the event and buy a ticket there. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music > Digital Culture --- max <max0666@cox.net> wrote:
quoted 6 lines Would like to get tickets to the AE show @> Would like to get tickets to the AE show @ > Mezzanine, SF... anybody > got any helpful info? > > >
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