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Why would an indie label negate communication with you because of your relation with a big label? did you try enough labels? (I am talking 400 - 500 here... not just sending 5 demos out and waiting for the girls to rush by your house with their mouth open...) -----Original Message----- From: Glowdot Dot Com [mailto:rick@glowdot.com] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 12:28 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] Funkadvertising And I'm an artist who felt the sting of corporate nonsense when my album was dumped by a major US label (very major) who didn't think they'd make any money on it. They probably wouldn't have, and yet I haven't had a single shred of interest from any of the so-called "indie" labels in the aftermath who pose as underground and free to do as they please. Probably as a result of my association with said large US label. Either way, both sides are trying to profit. One by brainwashing masses of simple-minded and naïve teenagers who haven't yet developed their own tastes or found their place in the world. The other by capitalizing on the hipness of obscurity. Which leaves me in the middle, unable to make a dime in this stupid business. XLR8R are not to blame here, though. Neither are Warp. It just is how it is. Rick Strom http://www.rick-strom.com http://www.glowdot.com -----Original Message----- From: Ishay Sommer [mailto:IshayS@Radware.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:21 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] Funkadvertising Speaking for myself as an artist, I have yet to find a label/company/person to do PR in the way that I think should be, which means that if I want the job done right I must do it myself, however, I would, at normal, prefer a company to do PR for me, so I can concentrate on the music... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

To answer your first question, please re-read what I originally wrote. I completely lost whatever manufactured "hip-cred" I had earned for myself, which is not, I suppose, what smaller labels want to hear. As for the second question: I don't want to sound abrasive here, but I was signed to release through the largest record distributor in the world. I think I know (or at least knew) what I was doing. I have management, PR and even a few commercials for ca$h under my belt. I did not send out 4-5 demos and wait for the chicks to line up. I have been professionally writing and producing -- making money at it -- for 4 years. For whatever reason, I am in the void: not commercial enough for the bigs (which, as I was told by those guys, meant "not trance") and too tainted by exposure for the smaller labels. Whatever. Like I said, it is what it is. If I had humbled myself and produced the trance album they wanted, I might be rich and up to my eyeballs in fine foreign women today. As it was, I stood my ground, hoping to get picked up by a smaller label in the aftermath. Didn't happen. Rick Strom http://www.rick-strom.com http://www.glowdot.com -----Original Message----- From: Ishay Sommer [mailto:IshayS@Radware.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:43 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] Funkadvertising Why would an indie label negate communication with you because of your relation with a big label? did you try enough labels? (I am talking 400 - 500 here... not just sending 5 demos out and waiting for the girls to rush by your house with their mouth open...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Your problem might lie elsewhere. royal trux were on a major label, given major promotion, and lost major cash for Virgin. when they dropped Virgin, Drag City picked them up although yeah they did get bashed critically for their albums on virgin. - a On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 07:19 PM, Glowdot Dot Com wrote:

quoted 56 lines To answer your first question, please re-read what I originally wrote.

> To answer your first question, please re-read what I originally wrote. > I > completely lost whatever manufactured "hip-cred" I had earned for > myself, > which is not, I suppose, what smaller labels want to hear. > > As for the second question: I don't want to sound abrasive here, but I > was > signed to release through the largest record distributor in the world. > I > think I know (or at least knew) what I was doing. I have management, > PR and > even a few commercials for ca$h under my belt. I did not send out 4-5 > demos > and wait for the chicks to line up. I have been professionally > writing and > producing -- making money at it -- for 4 years. > > For whatever reason, I am in the void: not commercial enough for the > bigs > (which, as I was told by those guys, meant "not trance") and too > tainted by > exposure for the smaller labels. > > Whatever. Like I said, it is what it is. If I had humbled myself and > produced the trance album they wanted, I might be rich and up to my > eyeballs > in fine foreign women today. As it was, I stood my ground, hoping to > get > picked up by a smaller label in the aftermath. Didn't happen. > > Rick Strom > http://www.rick-strom.com > http://www.glowdot.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ishay Sommer [mailto:IshayS@Radware.com] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:43 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Funkadvertising > > Why would an indie label negate communication with you because of your > relation with a big label? did you try enough labels? > > (I am talking 400 - 500 here... not just sending 5 demos out and > waiting for > the girls to rush by your house with their mouth open...) > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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andrew jones wrote:

quoted 6 lines Your problem might lie elsewhere.

> Your problem might lie elsewhere. > royal trux were on a major label, given major > promotion, and lost major cash for Virgin. when they > dropped Virgin, Drag City picked them up although > yeah they did get bashed critically for their albums > on virgin.

You have a great point: Royal Trux suck. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org