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2002-03-02 18:51shnare.sys [idm] sense - ice scatter slumber
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2002-03-03 20:29Matt Jackson Re: [idm] sense - ice scatter slumber
2002-03-06 15:38Daniel Stonehouse Re: [idm] sense - ice scatter slumber
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2002-03-02 18:51shnare.sysfrom what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i listening now CDR, but
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Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:51:56 +0100
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from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i listening now CDR, but from watta label is this? thanx
2002-03-02 18:10DannyIt's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy decided to put to
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Sat, 02 Mar 2002 13:10:52 -0500
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It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy decided to put together and call an album. If only I had a transcript of Sense freaking out in IRC when he discovered that floating around Napster.. At 07:51 PM 3/2/2002 +0100, shnare.sys wrote:
quoted 2 lines from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i>from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i >listening now CDR, but from watta label is this?
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2002-03-02 21:47xstatik@kung-fo.netohhh, shoot, that means one has to figure out the track length for each track on the compi
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ohhh, shoot, that means one has to figure out the track length for each track on the compilation cd from other cd's. On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Danny wrote:
quoted 15 lines It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy> It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy > decided to put together and call an album. If only I had a transcript of > Sense freaking out in IRC when he discovered that floating around Napster.. > > At 07:51 PM 3/2/2002 +0100, shnare.sys wrote: > >from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i > >listening now CDR, but from watta label is this? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-03-02 21:45xstatik@kung-fo.netI'd more like to get a tracklisting for this album..complete with track lengths if possibl
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I'd more like to get a tracklisting for this album..complete with track lengths if possible, anyone know any website or have an original copy? On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, shnare.sys wrote:
quoted 4 lines from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i listening no> from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i listening now CDR, but from watta label is this? > > thanx >
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2002-03-02 23:53Frederico OliveiraOhh, dejavu... > It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy
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Sat, 2 Mar 2002 23:53:19 -0000
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Ohh, dejavu...
quoted 3 lines It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy> It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some guy > decided to put together and call an album. If only I had a transcript of > Sense freaking out in IRC when he discovered that floating around
Napster..
quoted 4 lines from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i> > >from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i > >listening now CDR, but from watta label is this? >
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2002-03-03 11:08Frederico OliveiraWhy not helping adam (sense) and buying his official stuff, instead of collecting copyrigh
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Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:08:14 -0000
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Why not helping adam (sense) and buying his official stuff, instead of collecting copyrighted pieces and recording them on cds? A little common *sense* would tell you what to do... But this is just me talking, not your conscience.
quoted 4 lines ohhh, shoot, that means one has to figure out the track length for each> ohhh, shoot, that means one has to figure out the track length for each > track on the compilation cd from other cd's. > > > It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some
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quoted 1 line decided to put together and call an album. If only I had a transcript> > decided to put together and call an album. If only I had a transcript
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quoted 1 line Sense freaking out in IRC when he discovered that floating around> > Sense freaking out in IRC when he discovered that floating around
Napster..
quoted 4 lines At 07:51 PM 3/2/2002 +0100, shnare.sys wrote:> > > > At 07:51 PM 3/2/2002 +0100, shnare.sys wrote: > > >from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i > > >listening now CDR, but from watta label is this?
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2002-03-03 12:01Christopher Dilkussense has released stuff as mp3 that's legal and free to download and distribute. "blue sh
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Sun, 3 Mar 2002 07:01:02 -0500
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sense has released stuff as mp3 that's legal and free to download and distribute. "blue shade 1" on miasmah (www.miasmah.com), "bubble blower", "22050", "kieko" and "icy l tap" on monotonik (www.mono211.com) and those are just the ones that i have. maybe the disc is of those mp3's. dil
quoted 28 lines Why not helping adam (sense) and buying his official stuff, instead of>Why not helping adam (sense) and buying his official stuff, instead of >collecting copyrighted pieces and recording them on cds? A little common >*sense* would tell you what to do... But this is just me talking, not your >conscience. > >> ohhh, shoot, that means one has to figure out the track length for each >> track on the compilation cd from other cd's. >> >> > It's not from any label. It's just a bunch of Sense's MP3s that some >guy >> > decided to put together and call an album. If only I had a transcript >of >> > Sense freaking out in IRC when he discovered that floating around >Napster.. >> > >> > At 07:51 PM 3/2/2002 +0100, shnare.sys wrote: >> > >from what label is this release? "sense - ice scatter slumber"??? i >> > >listening now CDR, but from watta label is this? > >Fred Oliveira (aka krip/infashion) >Enough Records -- http://enough.box.sk >Email: fred@box.sk || fbo@clix.pt >ICQ: 78426467 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-03-03 20:29Matt JacksonJudging from the free song, Blue shade I downloaded off of www.miasmah.com (thanks to Chri
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Sun, 3 Mar 2002 15:29:45 -0500
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Judging from the free song, Blue shade I downloaded off of www.miasmah.com (thanks to Christopher Dikus), Ia m deff. going to get this albulm (mostly because I spin that clicks and pops kind of drone stuff). How does the rest of that albulm compare to 'Blue shade'? MJ ----- Original Message -----
quoted 1 line Why not helping adam (sense) and buying his official stuff, instead of> Why not helping adam (sense) and buying his official stuff, instead of
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2002-03-06 15:38Daniel Stonehousesense has plenty of official releases - why not purchase those instead? There are the two
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Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:38:02 +1100
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sense has plenty of official releases - why not purchase those instead? There are the two EP's on the australian Aural Industries label, the melencholica ep, his debut album on neo ouija, different tracks avaidable on Merck compilation, and his split 7inch with phonex. The ice scatter slumber "album" is not just mp3s collated under a fake album name, the individual tracks have been renamed as well. It's unfortunate that somebody decided to do this, as Sense has always been very free with distributing mp3s of both released and unreleased tracks. The person that "created" the ice scatter slumber ep is taking away one of the only controls an artist has over the material they release on mp3 - the right to name their own tracks, and to collate and sequence these individual tracks into a meaningful whole that could be called an album. Adam (sense) is quite right in thinking that "ice scatter slumber" is both a disrespectful way of distributing his music, and a misrepresentation of the tracks in question. For someone who invests so much of his time, thought, and emotion in his music, and who has been so willing to let people have his music essentially for free, the further distribution of this fake mp3 album can only be interpreted as a lack of respect for him personally and for the music. I'm not criticising those who have the ice scatter slumber EP. For some im sure its their first taste of an amazing musician, and incorrectly named or not the music is still the same. I just ask people to think about what it means to be appreciating amazing music in a format that has essentially been hijacked by an anonymous person. If you like Sense's music, then support him by actually purchasing an official release. Or download some of his official mp3 releases on www.miasmah.com or www.mono211.com its about RESPECT. Musicians owe listeners nothing. Broadening your mp3 collection is all well and good, as long as your honest with yourself about what your doing. In this small genre we (dis)like to call "IDM", artists are usually individuals not to disimmilar from you or I. Generally they arent making all that much money from music. They struggle to make, and then release their music, without profit in mind. Most are happy just to know people are listening to and getting something from their work. Some are even happy to release mp3s, knowing full well that once out there, the songs and their distribution will be out of their control. just bear that in mind next time you are downloading entire albums from soulseek or whatever...if you like an artist, then its not a big step to actually purchase one of their releases daniel / taylem / cystem / i2pi.res.labs --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org