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2002-01-12 08:50philippe petit [idm] what about Grooves???
2002-01-12 09:32Vector Audax Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
2002-01-12 18:17Nicholas Rejack [idm] what about Grooves???
└─ 2002-01-12 23:22Andrei Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
2002-01-12 19:25Vector Audax Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
2002-01-12 19:28Ben Browett Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
└─ 2002-01-12 20:15Kent williams Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
2002-01-12 19:49Ben Browett Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
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2002-01-12 08:50philippe petit[ yes I second and third the great words about Grooves, definitely best electronic related
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[ yes I second and third the great words about Grooves, definitely best electronic related english-written mag in the world. 2002 best wishes to Grooves / philippe ] | 0000 \\\\.. \\\\ __ http://www.bip-hop.com _---||||...\\\\..\\\\ | 0000 --------- unconventional sound adventures ---------- <> | XXX ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ adventurous & creative electronica ----------- \\ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-12 09:32Vector AudaxI fourth the nomination... slick mag from front to back, even though this month's cover wa
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I fourth the nomination... slick mag from front to back, even though this month's cover was a rip off of artwork from a graphic artist / former very popular camgirl. VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "philippe petit" <philippe-petit@wanadoo.fr> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:50 AM Subject: [idm] what about Grooves??? [ yes I second and third the great words about Grooves, definitely best electronic related english-written mag in the world. 2002 best wishes to Grooves / philippe ] | 0000 \\\\.. \\\\ __ http://www.bip-hop.com _---||||...\\\\..\\\\ | 0000 --------- unconventional sound adventures ---------- <> | XXX ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ adventurous & creative electronica ----------- \\ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-12 18:17Nicholas RejackSure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved Music (TM). And dig
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Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved Music (TM). And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ? nrejack'
quoted 18 lines I fourth the nomination... slick mag from front to back, even though this> > I fourth the nomination... slick mag from front to back, even though this > month's cover was a rip off of artwork from a graphic artist / former very > popular camgirl. > > VA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "philippe petit" <philippe-petit@wanadoo.fr> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:50 AM > Subject: [idm] what about Grooves??? > > [ yes I second and third the great words about Grooves, definitely best > electronic > related english-written mag in the world. 2002 best wishes to Grooves / > philippe ] >
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2002-01-12 23:22AndreiOn Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Nicholas Rejack wrote: > Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only l
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Nicholas Rejack wrote:
quoted 2 lines Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved Music> Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved Music > (TM).
pretty true
quoted 1 line And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ?> And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ?
I don't know, I think there are things that get lumped into the IDM category which I think are pretty "experimental" in some aspects (recent Autechre, Mego, Richard Devine, Oval, Phthalocyanine, etc.), but generally I would say most IDM is "experimental" if only compared to mainstream pop music. Even then I think P.E.'s Bomb Squad produced material, for example, was way more radical than the majority of IDM. That whole "experimental" tag is kinda silly anyway. I mean there's experimentation involved in every creative act. Maybe a more appropriate tag for Grooves would be "Non-mainstream Electronic Music" or some silly thing like that. If you wanted to get a sense of electronic music's real cutting edge you could look into MIT's Computer Music Journal or Organised Sound or Musicworks, for example. And while we're on the subject of IDM related mags I like Angbase. http://noiseweb.com/angbase/index.html Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-12 19:25Vector AudaxIts certainly not the be all and end all of electronic music... and I dont agree with all
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Its certainly not the be all and end all of electronic music... and I dont agree with all of its reviews, but I pick up 4 or 5 mags a month on music in general, so it tends to fill in the gap well. VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Rejack" <nrejack@mailandnews.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: [idm] what about Grooves???
quoted 1 line Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved> Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved
Music
quoted 7 lines (TM). And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ?> (TM). And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ? > > nrejack' > > > > > > I fourth the nomination... slick mag from front to back, even though
this
quoted 1 line month's cover was a rip off of artwork from a graphic artist / former> > month's cover was a rip off of artwork from a graphic artist / former
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quoted 25 lines popular camgirl.> > popular camgirl. > > > > VA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "philippe petit" <philippe-petit@wanadoo.fr> > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:50 AM > > Subject: [idm] what about Grooves??? > > > > [ yes I second and third the great words about Grooves, definitely best > > electronic > > related english-written mag in the world. 2002 best wishes to Grooves / > > philippe ] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-01-12 19:28Ben BrowettAre there any decent UK publications? Cheers, Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nich
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Are there any decent UK publications? Cheers, Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Rejack" <nrejack@mailandnews.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:17 PM Subject: [idm] what about Grooves???
quoted 1 line Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved> Sure, Grooves is a decent rag, if you only listen to IDM-List Approved
Music
quoted 7 lines (TM). And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ?> (TM). And dig that line on the cover - "Experimental Electronic Music." ? > > nrejack' > > > > > > I fourth the nomination... slick mag from front to back, even though
this
quoted 1 line month's cover was a rip off of artwork from a graphic artist / former> > month's cover was a rip off of artwork from a graphic artist / former
very
quoted 27 lines popular camgirl.> > popular camgirl. > > > > VA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "philippe petit" <philippe-petit@wanadoo.fr> > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:50 AM > > Subject: [idm] what about Grooves??? > > > > [ yes I second and third the great words about Grooves, definitely best > > electronic > > related english-written mag in the world. 2002 best wishes to Grooves / > > philippe ] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2002-01-12 20:15Kent williamsOn Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Ben Browett wrote: > Are there any decent UK publications? > As much
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Ben Browett wrote:
quoted 2 lines Are there any decent UK publications?> Are there any decent UK publications? >
As much as it gets slagged, I find the Wire to be a great magazine. Sure they go off the deep end occasionally, but that is more the fault of the individual authors. In general they do a fantastic job of covering the full breadth of experimental and obscure music in all genres. They write about difficult music and bring out the beauty of it's extremity. If you feel like complaining about the Wire, pick up the Rolling Stone or Spin. I'll take pretentious twats talking about Anthony Braxton over corporate dick-sucking any day... Saddest decline is Jockey Slut, which had a brilliant year and then turned into just another club culture clusterfuck. They do an OK job of covering the dancefloor end of things in the review section, but the articles are generally full of stupid shit. It's all very 'knees up', 'knackered', 'bollocks,' and 'lush trainers.' I've even caught them referring to England as 'Blighty.' I'm sure it's just the thing for the fine young British E-tard, but it used to be something special. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-12 19:49Ben Browett$20 for 3 issues is a bit steep for me. The only one I used to buy that had any vaguely ex
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$20 for 3 issues is a bit steep for me. The only one I used to buy that had any vaguely experimental reviews/interviews was future music (since I make music, and yes, that bad) but its gone downhill a lot and is too expensive. Are there any that have *some* IDM? Its not as important as I don't know half the people you guys are talking about anyway =) Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Lloyd" <merciless@ntlworld.com> To: "Ben Browett" <ben@eskimo.force9.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [idm] what about Grooves???
quoted 9 lines Are there any decent UK publications?> > >Are there any decent UK publications? > > There are no purely IDM/experimental electronic music publications that I > know of. You can get Grooves in the UK now though. ;) > > Paul > >
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