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2002-01-10 09:08Jonathan HierholzerAutechre, unlike Stereolab, etc, have obviously never been much of a merchandise band.. an

From:: Jonathan Hierholzer <ilovekid606@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:08:53 -0800
Subject:: [idm] ae merch?

Autechre, unlike Stereolab, etc, have obviously never been much of a merchandise band.. and for a good reason. They are so involved in the sound that I suppose they don't want any type of associative icons related to their music or something philosophical like that.. but you gotta admit it would rock to wear around a tri-rep-brown Autechre t-shirt, right? Now I seem to vaguely remember reading that at one time in the past they produced ONE type of tri-rep promo t-shirt. Is this true, considering the vagueness of the rumour and the unorthodox nature of it? It doesn't seem like Sean and Rob's style..since they couldn';t care any less about promotion or record sales.. but who knows.. Just wondering if anyone here could shed some light on the issue.. Jonathan H.

2002-01-10 07:15EggyToastAt 01:08 AM 1/10/2002 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote: >Autechre, unlike Stereolab, etc,

From:: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>
To:: Jonathan Hierholzer <ilovekid606@hotmail.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:15:40 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?
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At 01:08 AM 1/10/2002 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote:

quoted 11 lines Autechre, unlike Stereolab, etc, have obviously never been much of a

>Autechre, unlike Stereolab, etc, have obviously never been much of a >merchandise band.. and for a good reason. They are so involved in the >sound that I suppose they don't want any type of associative icons related >to their music or something philosophical like that.. but you gotta admit >it would rock to wear around a tri-rep-brown Autechre t-shirt, right? Now >I seem to vaguely remember reading that at one time in the past they >produced ONE type of tri-rep promo t-shirt. Is this true, considering the >vagueness of the rumour and the unorthodox nature of it? It doesn't seem >like Sean and Rob's style..since they couldn';t care any less about >promotion or record sales.. but who knows.. Just wondering if anyone here >could shed some light on the issue..

There are plenty of ae t-shirts and other materials out there. Sure, the ae boys themselves may not care much, but they gotta care a little, since they're always toting t-shirts around for their gigs. I picked one up on their last tour. Of course, most bands of a smaller reputation end up creating t-shirts to sell during tours, and depending on the amount and size of gigs they had during their tri-repetae era, the amount or type of shirt may be quite rare or just boring. plus, as with all more "independent" type bands, there's plenty of bootlegging. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the rumour you heard was simply a bootleg. derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- snappy one-liner --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-01-10 19:41Henderson JesseI own a t-shirt with no brand names or band names on it, that is the EXACT same color as t

From:: Henderson Jesse <friendofgod@mindspring.com>
To:: Jonathan Hierholzer <ilovekid606@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:41:54 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?

I own a t-shirt with no brand names or band names on it, that is the EXACT same color as the tri repetae album cover. I just call that my tri repetae t-shirt. It doesn't really help to advertise for the band, but then again, that's kind of what you were saying they wanted, right? Also, when I saw them live in LA there was a guy there that had an ep7 shirt that was basically just the cover printed on the back of a white t-shirt. He could have made it custom himself, but I don't really know, I assumed he had bought it at a concert, because it was very professionally done. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Hierholzer" <ilovekid606@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: [idm] ae merch? Autechre, unlike Stereolab, etc, have obviously never been much of a merchandise band.. and for a good reason. They are so involved in the sound that I suppose they don't want any type of associative icons related to their music or something philosophical like that.. but you gotta admit it would rock to wear around a tri-rep-brown Autechre t-shirt, right? Now I seem to vaguely remember reading that at one time in the past they produced ONE type of tri-rep promo t-shirt. Is this true, considering the vagueness of the rumour and the unorthodox nature of it? It doesn't seem like Sean and Rob's style..since they couldn';t care any less about promotion or record sales.. but who knows.. Just wondering if anyone here could shed some light on the issue.. Jonathan H. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-01-10 21:55RichIt doesn't cost that much to get a T-shirt done with anything these days. It's probably mo

From:: Rich <arkive@btopenworld.com>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:55:38 -0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?

It doesn't cost that much to get a T-shirt done with anything these days. It's probably more 'designer' if you get your own designs done. I'll be accused of being 'sad' by saying I had a FAX t-shirt done, decent cotton job n all. I don't care much for merch, AE stuff or otherwise (but I did want an Aphex logo shirt years ago), but anything that suits what I'm into is enough. If bands want to do merch, that's cool, but it's the music that needs the merit. You can't sell crap music, but you could merch them to hell and back....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henderson Jesse" <friendofgod@mindspring.com> To: "Jonathan Hierholzer" <ilovekid606@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [idm] ae merch?

quoted 6 lines I own a t-shirt with no brand names or band names on it, that is the EXACT

> I own a t-shirt with no brand names or band names on it, that is the EXACT > same color as the tri repetae album cover. I just call that my tri repetae > t-shirt. It doesn't really help to advertise for the band, but then again, > that's kind of what you were saying they wanted, right? > > Also, when I saw them live in LA there was a guy there that had an ep7

shirt

quoted 1 line that was basically just the cover printed on the back of a white t-shirt.

> that was basically just the cover printed on the back of a white t-shirt.

quoted 1 line could have made it custom himself, but I don't really know, I assumed he

> could have made it custom himself, but I don't really know, I assumed he

had

quoted 13 lines bought it at a concert, because it was very professionally done.

> bought it at a concert, because it was very professionally done. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Hierholzer" <ilovekid606@hotmail.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:08 AM > Subject: [idm] ae merch? > > > Autechre, unlike Stereolab, etc, have obviously never been much of a > merchandise band.. and for a good reason. They are so involved in the

sound

quoted 4 lines that I suppose they don't want any type of associative icons related to

> that I suppose they don't want any type of associative icons related to > their music or something philosophical like that.. but you gotta admit it > would rock to wear around a tri-rep-brown Autechre t-shirt, right? Now I > seem to vaguely remember reading that at one time in the past they

produced

quoted 1 line ONE type of tri-rep promo t-shirt. Is this true, considering the

> ONE type of tri-rep promo t-shirt. Is this true, considering the

vagueness

quoted 13 lines of the rumour and the unorthodox nature of it? It doesn't seem like Sean

> of the rumour and the unorthodox nature of it? It doesn't seem like Sean > and Rob's style..since they couldn';t care any less about promotion or > record sales.. but who knows.. Just wondering if anyone here could shed > some light on the issue.. > > Jonathan H. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2002-01-10 22:58Mxyzptlk>. You can't sell crap music... Yes you can, actually. jeff ------------------------------

From:: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>
To:: Rich <arkive@btopenworld.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:58:47 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?
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quoted 1 line . You can't sell crap music...

>. You can't sell crap music...

Yes you can, actually. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-01-10 21:05omz>>. You can't sell crap music... > most of the music sold today IS crap. it's done everyda

From:: omz <omz23@speakeasy.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:05:40 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?
Reply to:: Re: [idm] ae merch?

quoted 2 lines . You can't sell crap music...

>>. You can't sell crap music... >

most of the music sold today IS crap. it's done everyday. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-01-10 22:06Rich----- Original Message ----- From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com> To: "Rich" <arkive@bt

From:: Rich <arkive@btopenworld.com>
To:: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:06:46 -0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mxyzptlk" <jpklein@telocity.com> To: "Rich" <arkive@btopenworld.com>; "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [idm] ae merch?

quoted 7 lines . You can't sell crap music...

> > >. You can't sell crap music... > > Yes you can, actually. > jeff > >

Okay, maybe you can. Apologies all round. But I CHOOSE to buy good music. People have the choice to what pleases them, and no amount of merch. should dictate that. Promotion maybe, but merch. merely places you on one particular side. IMHO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-01-10 22:21Maximilien Lincourt> Okay, maybe you can. Apologies all round. But I CHOOSE to buy > good music. You're a luc

From:: Maximilien Lincourt <max@toonboom.com>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:21:14 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] ae merch?
Reply to:: Re: [idm] ae merch?

quoted 2 lines Okay, maybe you can. Apologies all round. But I CHOOSE to buy

> Okay, maybe you can. Apologies all round. But I CHOOSE to buy > good music.

You're a lucky guy, to be able to buy only good music ... "good" is not a good word here; I think you need to rephrase that to : "I Choose to buy music that I Like" Because it happened a lot of time that I told a friend or two to buy such and such CD because I told them it was "Good Music" just to find out that they didn't like it; t'was only good to me, but not to them. and they laughed at me for my bad taste in music, and they left and bought something else that I didn't like, whether or not it was good music or not, I can't say... --- Maximilien Lincourt Max At Toon Boom Dot Com Codito Ergo Sum --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-01-10 22:34Rich----- Original Message ----- From: "Maximilien Lincourt" <max@toonboom.com> To: "idm" <idm

From:: Rich <arkive@btopenworld.com>
To:: Maximilien Lincourt <max@toonboom.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:34:31 -0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] ae merch?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Maximilien Lincourt" <max@toonboom.com> To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: RE: [idm] ae merch?

quoted 4 lines Okay, maybe you can. Apologies all round. But I CHOOSE to buy

> > Okay, maybe you can. Apologies all round. But I CHOOSE to buy > > good music. > > You're a lucky guy, to be able to buy only good music ...

It's more based on informed decisions rather than blindly buying every new CD out that week. I have taken risks in purchasing, but even then I have mostly been pleasantly suprised. (See below)

quoted 4 lines "good" is not a good word here; I think you need to rephrase that to :

> > "good" is not a good word here; I think you need to rephrase that to : > > "I Choose to buy music that I Like"

I'll agree with you here. this is a better interpretation of what I meant. Apologies again. (My fingers type faster than I think ;-) )

quoted 8 lines Because it happened a lot of time that I told a friend or two to buy such

> > Because it happened a lot of time that I told a friend or two to buy such > and such CD because I told them it was "Good Music" just to find out that > they didn't like it; t'was only good to me, but not to them. and they > laughed > at me for my bad taste in music, and they left and bought something else > that > I didn't like, whether or not it was good music or not, I can't say...

Yes, what each of us perceive as 'good' is merely subjective. I have bought albums which initially I thought were crap, only to spend time listening and hearing it's finer points... I don't like recommending music unless people have expressed an interest in that sort of style, and are willing to commit to listening. I usually lend a CD of something similar and if they like that, then I'll expand on the topic.

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