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2001-12-06 00:29Lysaa Bi [idm] IDM Radio?
├─ 2001-12-06 00:46Michael P Re: [idm] IDM Radio?
└─ 2001-12-06 01:01EggyToast Re: [idm] IDM Radio?
2001-12-06 01:44Short, Laurence RE: [idm] IDM Radio?
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2001-12-06 01:59Lysaa Bi Re: [idm] IDM Radio?
2001-12-06 02:01Short, Laurence RE: [idm] IDM Radio?
├─ 2001-12-06 02:08EggyToast RE: [idm] IDM Radio?
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2001-12-06 02:01Lysaa Bi Re: [idm] IDM Radio?
2001-12-06 02:03Lysaa Bi RE: [idm] IDM Radio?
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2001-12-06 00:29Lysaa BiI'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there to format a 24hour FM radio station? I w
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I'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there to format a 24hour FM radio station? I work for the company that built the satellite for xmradio, so I hear about it alot. I'm thinking it would be nice if one of the 100 FM stations available by subscription over the whole US have a more interesting format than say, the various music formats on DirectTV. Maybe a grassroots movement(like hundreds of subscribers demanding IDM) might convince the programming execs to make an IDM channel... here's the link for the current dance channels http://www.xmradio.com/programming/programming_category.jsp?category=Dance I'm NOT trying to sell xmradio, just looking for opinions. Thoughts, anyone? Is there enough decent idm out there? Would people like to see an idm station available across the US, that everyone could listen to simultaneously? What are the social ramifications? (just kidding) Lysaa -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 00:46Michael POn Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Lysaa Bi wrote: > Is there enough decent idm out there? Would people l
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Lysaa Bi wrote:
quoted 3 lines Is there enough decent idm out there? Would people like to see an idm> Is there enough decent idm out there? Would people like to see an idm > station available across the US, that everyone could listen to > simultaneously? What are the social ramifications? (just kidding)
Well, since we all learned earlier that those dumb womenfolk don't list to idm, that cuts your potential market in half! Damn! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 01:01EggyToastAt 08:29 AM 12/6/2001 +0800, you wrote: >I'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there
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At 08:29 AM 12/6/2001 +0800, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines I'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there to format a 24hour FM>I'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there to format a 24hour FM >radio station? >Is there enough decent idm out there?
enough IDM? Sure. Enough good IDM? I don't know. Probably, yeah... the only problem is that most IDM is released as "albums," not "hits," so picking individual songs for rotation would be difficult, since playing full albums would probably not be feasible. Some massive shuffling/compiling thing would probably work pretty slick. I mean, 24 hours is only about 24 full albums. You like 24 albums, don't you?
quoted 2 lines Would people like to see an idm station available across the US, that>Would people like to see an idm station available across the US, that >everyone could listen to simultaneously?
Sure. I'm all about free music that I don't have to work for that's actually good. :D
quoted 1 line What are the social ramifications? (just kidding)>What are the social ramifications? (just kidding)
Well, I see it as a huge jump in the direction of auton... oh, you were kidding. derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- everyone's doing it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 01:44Short, LaurenceYeah, there's enough IDM out there to warrant a 24-hour station, absolutely. But I think y
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Yeah, there's enough IDM out there to warrant a 24-hour station, absolutely. But I think you'd have to expand your definition of "IDM" to do it, to keep the content fresh and more diverse than some folks would have it. Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to your employer, there's room for me to sneak in and actively promote my own gig. I program an all-IDM station, cleverly dubbed "IDM", that resides on, of all places, VH1.com, and judging by the number of listeners its attracting, I'd say that lots of people out there agree with this idea. Right now, as Mr. EggyToast just suggested, we have a shuffling/compiling thing going on, where we've encoded a couple of hundred IDM-ish albums and we weight the songs individually, so some come up often, others less often. The music is pulled from the same database that feeds the other 100+ stations that reside on either VH1.com or MTV.com (I know, I know...) so these couple of hundred IDM-ish albums are only a small part of much, much larger palette from which to choose. I don't think there's any shortage of good IDM music out there, but there's definitely a shortage of people who are willing to broaden their horizons and definitions and scope. The station I program has a looser definition of "IDM" than some folks find comfortable I suppose, but that's because Intelligent Dance Music can really include all sorts of stuff when you take into account influences, variations, or an offbeat recommendation from your local record store clerk (who is hopefully surrounded by something other than dance music.) If you've made it this far and are interested in listening to this station, it sits here: http://www.vh1.com/sounds.visions/vh1atwork/ Scroll past the mega-platinum artist stations at the top... oh, and you need a (free) username and password account to listen... And if you're interested in getting your music on this station, just write me offlist and I'll give you the details. No palm-greasing, no MTV/VH1 bullshit to wade through, just send me your record. /Larry -----Original Message----- From: Lysaa Bi [mailto:lysaabi@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:29 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] IDM Radio? I'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there to format a 24hour FM radio station? I work for the company that built the satellite for xmradio, so I hear about it alot. I'm thinking it would be nice if one of the 100 FM stations available by subscription over the whole US have a more interesting format than say, the various music formats on DirectTV. Maybe a grassroots movement(like hundreds of subscribers demanding IDM) might convince the programming execs to make an IDM channel... here's the link for the current dance channels http://www.xmradio.com/programming/programming_category.jsp?category=Dan ce I'm NOT trying to sell xmradio, just looking for opinions. Thoughts, anyone? Is there enough decent idm out there? Would people like to see an idm station available across the US, that everyone could listen to simultaneously? What are the social ramifications? (just kidding) Lysaa -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 01:50eric@synthesizer.org>Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to >your employer, the
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quoted 6 lines Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to>Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to >your employer, there's room for me to sneak in and actively promote my >own gig. I program an all-IDM station, cleverly dubbed "IDM", that >resides on, of all places, VH1.com, and judging by the number of >listeners its attracting, I'd say that lots of people out there agree >with this idea.
It seems like licensing might be a stickler here. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 01:59Lysaa BiAhem. What's this about women not listening to idm? Is there truth to this blasphemy? Lisa
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Ahem. What's this about women not listening to idm? Is there truth to this blasphemy? Lisa b -----Original Message----- From: Michael P <idm@krimedawg.org> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:46:50 -0800 (PST) To: Lysaa Bi <lysaabi@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [idm] IDM Radio?
quoted 15 lines On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Lysaa Bi wrote:> On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Lysaa Bi wrote: > > > Is there enough decent idm out there? Would people like to see an idm > > station available across the US, that everyone could listen to > > simultaneously? What are the social ramifications? (just kidding) > > Well, since we all learned earlier that those dumb womenfolk don't list to > idm, that cuts your potential market in half! Damn! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-12-06 02:01Short, LaurenceIt will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court against the RIAA, y
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It will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court against the RIAA, yes. -----Original Message----- From: eric@synthesizer.org [mailto:eric@synthesizer.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:50 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] IDM Radio?
quoted 6 lines Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to>Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to >your employer, there's room for me to sneak in and actively promote my >own gig. I program an all-IDM station, cleverly dubbed "IDM", that >resides on, of all places, VH1.com, and judging by the number of >listeners its attracting, I'd say that lots of people out there agree >with this idea.
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2001-12-06 02:08EggyToastAt 09:01 PM 12/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: >It will be when all online radio broadcasters los
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At 09:01 PM 12/5/2001 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines It will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court>It will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court >against the RIAA, yes.
Although, I don't know... there are definitely "public performance" types of licenses, much like what radio stations use, and what all live-music venues have (so everyone can play happy cover songs). The streams aren't any more recordable than standard radio, and they're not downloadable... So I don't see how they could make a case? derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- everyone's doing it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 03:20eric@synthesizer.org>It will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court >against the RIAA,
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quoted 2 lines It will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court>It will be when all online radio broadcasters lose the battle in court >against the RIAA, yes.
Well, the only relevant RIAA label is Astralwerks, who I imagine will be under whatever stream licensing umbrella is hammered out. I was talking more about how it might be difficult to track down everybody involved when trying to license some of those favorite tracks that listmembers might want to have put on the program. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-12-06 02:01Lysaa Bigo ahead and say it... auton...? > > Well, I see it as a huge jump in the direction of aut
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go ahead and say it... auton...?
quoted 10 lines Well, I see it as a huge jump in the direction of auton... oh, you were> > Well, I see it as a huge jump in the direction of auton... oh, you were > kidding. > > derek > ------- > eggytoast.com > ------- > everyone's doing it >
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2001-12-06 02:03Lysaa BiSo why don't you pitch your thing to XM radio? -----Original Message----- From: "Short, La
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So why don't you pitch your thing to XM radio? -----Original Message----- From: "Short, Laurence" <ShortL@mtvi.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:44:37 -0500 To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [idm] IDM Radio?
quoted 92 lines Yeah, there's enough IDM out there to warrant a 24-hour station,> Yeah, there's enough IDM out there to warrant a 24-hour station, > absolutely. But I think you'd have to expand your definition of "IDM" > to do it, to keep the content fresh and more diverse than some folks > would have it. > > Since you opened the door by actively not promoting a company tied to > your employer, there's room for me to sneak in and actively promote my > own gig. I program an all-IDM station, cleverly dubbed "IDM", that > resides on, of all places, VH1.com, and judging by the number of > listeners its attracting, I'd say that lots of people out there agree > with this idea. > > Right now, as Mr. EggyToast just suggested, we have a > shuffling/compiling thing going on, where we've encoded a couple of > hundred IDM-ish albums and we weight the songs individually, so some > come up often, others less often. The music is pulled from the same > database that feeds the other 100+ stations that reside on either > VH1.com or MTV.com (I know, I know...) so these couple of hundred > IDM-ish albums are only a small part of much, much larger palette from > which to choose. > > I don't think there's any shortage of good IDM music out there, but > there's definitely a shortage of people who are willing to broaden their > horizons and definitions and scope. The station I program has a looser > definition of "IDM" than some folks find comfortable I suppose, but > that's because Intelligent Dance Music can really include all sorts of > stuff when you take into account influences, variations, or an offbeat > recommendation from your local record store clerk (who is hopefully > surrounded by something other than dance music.) > > If you've made it this far and are interested in listening to this > station, it sits here: http://www.vh1.com/sounds.visions/vh1atwork/ > Scroll past the mega-platinum artist stations at the top... oh, and you > need a (free) username and password account to listen... > > And if you're interested in getting your music on this station, just > write me offlist and I'll give you the details. No palm-greasing, no > MTV/VH1 bullshit to wade through, just send me your record. > > /Larry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lysaa Bi [mailto:lysaabi@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:29 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] IDM Radio? > > > I'm just wondering, is there enough IDM out there to format a 24hour FM > radio station? > > I work for the company that built the satellite for xmradio, so I hear > about it alot. I'm thinking it would be nice if one of the 100 FM > stations available by subscription over the whole US have a more > interesting format than say, the various music formats on DirectTV. > > Maybe a grassroots movement(like hundreds of subscribers demanding IDM) > might convince the programming execs to make an IDM channel... > > here's the link for the current dance channels > http://www.xmradio.com/programming/programming_category.jsp?category=Dan > ce > > > I'm NOT trying to sell xmradio, just looking for opinions. > > Thoughts, anyone? > Is there enough decent idm out there? > Would people like to see an idm station available across the US, that > everyone could listen to simultaneously? > What are the social ramifications? (just kidding) > > > Lysaa > > > -- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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