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Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane (12" fight) + some questions + beta bodega

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2001-06-08 05:40* lim Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane (12" fight) + some questions + beta bodega
└─ 2001-06-08 20:38Chispas De Muerte [idm] beta bodega
2001-06-08 06:31philippe petit Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane (12" fight) + some questions + beta bodega
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2001-06-08 05:40* limidm peeps: oh jeez...i think i.ll put my money on the one with the boards shirt and the bo
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idm peeps: oh jeez...i think i.ll put my money on the one with the boards shirt and the boards 12's...those din records are cut so damn nice the couldn.t cut meat...i.ll bet you could cut heads off with the skam boards releases. i had some questions for anyone who can answer them...here we go: 1: anyone know if there are going to be any more blir releases?...i thought there were supposed to be 4 in the series... 2: pole and vladislav delay colab?...true?...anyone know what pole.s doing these days...? 3: anyone know the release dates for phoenecia.s brown out and takeshi.s album... 4: also...when.s that patcha kutek cd coming out on beta bodega... speaking of beta bodega...i was thinking today...if i stereotype...the majority of people buying bbc records are fairly well-to-do people...maybe middle-class white dudes...right?...i doubt that these people are really going to give a care about third world suffering...nor are they going to try and do anyting about it...plus...why the secrecy...if bbc is so determined to spread the word of truth and justice...why put the electronic music anonymity veil on?...and the v8 transmission on psych. ops?...if you want to be truthful...why not make something at least coherent. i.m just wondering if the secrecy and mystery surrounding bbc releases is just a marketing ploy...i mean...i e-mailed hamijama about the track titles on cultivar and the damned decoder thing...and he didn.t even seem to know himself. .nother thing...do you really think that the bbc artists are really writing songs to relate the suffering of thrid world peoples?...i don.t know...i.m kid of skeptical that any bbc artist is sitting there saying "how can i make this sound like third world suffering"...well...slap a title like 'skin blisters' on there...or something in a foreign language...and there ya go...instant bbc track. i.m not saying the music isn.t great...which it is...i love it...i buy it...but everything else just seems like a costume to me...kind of an in vain effort...i think the ultra-red releases seem a little more provoking...they seem to be going out there and trying to make a difference in the community and things...just seems like bbc is trying to sell records...(nothing wrong with that though)...still...i.m still wondering about their merits as social spokespeople...i mean...after hearing phonem.s track on needle.s transmissions i.d rather just listen to it again, and again, and nauseam, not go out and make a difference... lemme know what you think...i mean...why didn.t sony mao just tell everyone the needle tracklist...instead of posting abuja or whatever computer server jargon?...come on now...a dude can.t just know who worked on a track? (ps...i know they.re just anagrams and easy to figure out...but whatever...trying to make a point i guess...) please don.t take me too seriously on this one...just a thought while reading the banana republic insert...which is kinda vague...but aren.t they all...? fine music though...and that.s what counts. *lim <clipped>
quoted 15 lines From: rdhouse@ilstu.edu>From: rdhouse@ilstu.edu >To: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> >CC: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:01:03 -0500 (CDT) >These comparison/contrasts arguments always end this way. I'm >disappointed, I'd rather end up being a dick about all of this. Give me a >shirt that says "Arovane" on it and you get a shirt that says "Boards of >'Fucking' Canada" and we'll fight hand-to-hand with our 12"'s. One on one. > Fuck this, "We've come to a conclusion about this, it's a matter of >taste" shit, I want real action. Come to IRC newnet #// and look me up. >I'm gonna take you down mother fucker with my arovane 12"s in hand. > >Rated_R >
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2001-06-08 20:38Chispas De Muerte"speaking of beta bodega...i was thinking today...if i stereotype...the majority of people
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"speaking of beta bodega...i was thinking today...if i stereotype...the majority of people buying bbc records are fairly well-to-do people...maybe middle-class white dudes...right?...i doubt that these people are really going to give a care about third world suffering".... Which is exactley why someone would want to release records with educational info on them, I dunno even if it is some marketing ploy its kind of nice to see something out there that is concious of the outside world, rather than the normal apolitical stance of electronic music.And the music is slamming beyond the politics, thats the best part. --- * lim <the_lim@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 122 lines idm peeps:> idm peeps: > > oh jeez...i think i.ll put my money on the one with > the boards shirt and the > boards 12's...those din records are cut so damn nice > the couldn.t cut > meat...i.ll bet you could cut heads off with the > skam boards releases. > > i had some questions for anyone who can answer > them...here we go: > > 1: anyone know if there are going to be any more > blir releases?...i thought > there were supposed to be 4 in the series... > > 2: pole and vladislav delay colab?...true?...anyone > know what pole.s doing > these days...? > > 3: anyone know the release dates for phoenecia.s > brown out and takeshi.s > album... > > 4: also...when.s that patcha kutek cd coming out on > beta bodega... > > speaking of beta bodega...i was thinking today...if > i stereotype...the > majority of people buying bbc records are fairly > well-to-do people...maybe > middle-class white dudes...right?...i doubt that > these people are really > going to give a care about third world > suffering...nor are they going to try > and do anyting about it...plus...why the > secrecy...if bbc is so determined > to spread the word of truth and justice...why put > the electronic music > anonymity veil on?...and the v8 transmission on > psych. ops?...if you want to > be truthful...why not make something at least > coherent. > > i.m just wondering if the secrecy and mystery > surrounding bbc releases is > just a marketing ploy...i mean...i e-mailed hamijama > about the track titles > on cultivar and the damned decoder thing...and he > didn.t even seem to know > himself. .nother thing...do you really think that > the bbc artists are really > writing songs to relate the suffering of thrid world > peoples?...i don.t > know...i.m kid of skeptical that any bbc artist is > sitting there saying "how > can i make this sound like third world > suffering"...well...slap a title like > 'skin blisters' on there...or something in a foreign > language...and there ya > go...instant bbc track. i.m not saying the music > isn.t great...which it > is...i love it...i buy it...but everything else just > seems like a costume to > me...kind of an in vain effort...i think the > ultra-red releases seem a > little more provoking...they seem to be going out > there and trying to make a > difference in the community and things...just seems > like bbc is trying to > sell records...(nothing wrong with that > though)...still...i.m still > wondering about their merits as social > spokespeople...i mean...after hearing > phonem.s track on needle.s transmissions i.d rather > just listen to it again, > and again, and nauseam, not go out and make a > difference... > > lemme know what you think...i mean...why didn.t sony > mao just tell everyone > the needle tracklist...instead of posting abuja or > whatever computer server > jargon?...come on now...a dude can.t just know who > worked on a track? > (ps...i know they.re just anagrams and easy to > figure out...but > whatever...trying to make a point i guess...) > > please don.t take me too seriously on this > one...just a thought while > reading the banana republic insert...which is kinda > vague...but aren.t they > all...? fine music though...and that.s what counts. > > *lim > > <clipped> > >From: rdhouse@ilstu.edu > >To: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> > >CC: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:01:03 -0500 (CDT) > >These comparison/contrasts arguments always end > this way. I'm > >disappointed, I'd rather end up being a dick about > all of this. Give me a > >shirt that says "Arovane" on it and you get a shirt > that says "Boards of > >'Fucking' Canada" and we'll fight hand-to-hand with > our 12"'s. One on one. > > Fuck this, "We've come to a conclusion about > this, it's a matter of > >taste" shit, I want real action. Come to IRC > newnet #// and look me up. > >I'm gonna take you down mother fucker with my > arovane 12"s in hand. > > > >Rated_R > > > </clipped> >
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2001-06-08 06:31philippe petit> .still...i.m still wondering about their merits as social spokespeople...i > mean...afte
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Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane (12" fight) + some questions + beta bodega
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quoted 5 lines .still...i.m still wondering about their merits as social spokespeople...i> .still...i.m still wondering about their merits as social spokespeople...i > mean...after hearing > phonem.s track on needle.s transmissions i.d rather just listen to it again, > and again, and nauseam, not go out and make a difference... >
well I dunno them personnally but what I heard is that the man running the label is really into politics, action, socially concerned. Ultra Red and Phonem are too. All the other are doing music. So this is why, maybe, there sem to be a gap between the political concept and most of the music, obviously they do not write songs to relate any suffering, or whatever... philippe <---------------------------------------------------------------------> http://www.bip-hop.com unconventional sound adventures, adventurous & creative electronica... <--------------------------------------------------------------------->