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[idm] Arovane, Phonem, and Soul Coughing.

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2001-06-07 15:30Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane
└─ 2001-06-07 15:47Adam Piontek Re: [idm] BoC vs. Arovane
2001-06-07 15:56Duncan Krostue [idm] Arovane, Phonem, and Soul Coughing.
2001-06-07 17:04Tom Pereira [idm] Re: Arovane, Phonem, and Soul Coughing.
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2001-06-07 15:30rdhouse@ilstu.edu>They're not even comparable, to my ears. Tides is >remotely BoC-like, and I liked it enou
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quoted 2 lines They're not even comparable, to my ears. Tides is>They're not even comparable, to my ears. Tides is >remotely BoC-like, and I liked it enough to keep it.
Spoken like a guy who placed his dick in a vise to get more pleasure out of "Music Has The Right to Children" than needs to be. One track from Tides sounds like Boards of Canada. The rest is bliss.
quoted 2 lines Atol Scrap isn't remotely like Tides, as far as I can>Atol Scrap isn't remotely like Tides, as far as I can >tell, and for me was not worth keeping.
My point was that Arovane can release an album that sounds nothing like the previous, and sound so much better. That's a rarity.
quoted 4 lines This is all, of course, at the risk of pissing off>This is all, of course, at the risk of pissing off >those of you who think you have to either like every >single thing or dislike every single thing by a given >artist... Be flexible, people! :)
I am, but recently my dicks been hard about alot of issues like this. And to further mess with the IDM contingency.
quoted 3 lines So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol>So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol >Scrap is, to me, like comparing Plaid to Soul >Coughing's Ruby Vroom.
Good point, Soul Coughing sucks then mate. Pack it in, Rated_R --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-07 15:47Adam Piontek--- rdhouse@ilstu.edu wrote: > >They're not even comparable, to my ears. Tides is > >remot
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Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
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--- rdhouse@ilstu.edu wrote:
quoted 8 lines They're not even comparable, to my ears. Tides is> >They're not even comparable, to my ears. Tides is > >remotely BoC-like, and I liked it enough to keep > it. > > Spoken like a guy who placed his dick in a vise to > get more pleasure out of "Music Has The Right to > Children" than needs to be. One track from Tides > sounds like Boards of Canada. The rest is bliss.
I didn't say I didn't like Tides. It seems that you are the one who is getting rather defensive. Not to mention unnecessarily rude. If you don't like BoC, more power to you. That wasn't my point.
quoted 7 lines Atol Scrap isn't remotely like Tides, as far as I> >Atol Scrap isn't remotely like Tides, as far as I > can > >tell, and for me was not worth keeping. > > My point was that Arovane can release an album that > sounds nothing like the previous, and sound so much > better. That's a rarity.
Someone else brought this up recently (I think in that Plaid review that mentioned the balcony), and I'll second it - there's too much emphasis on always having something new and different, and it's sometimes just as difficult to create a great sound and keep at it while keeping it fresh. Personally, I think BoC have done this, though I don't worship them or anyone else as you seem to think I do. It's again a matter of taste, and my real point was not to judge the artists mentioned, just to suggest that there were significant differences between them such that to complain that one gets more unwarranted attention than the other is kind of unwarranted in and of itself. Come to think of it, I should have just said that in the first place.
quoted 5 lines So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol> >So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol > >Scrap is, to me, like comparing Plaid to Soul > >Coughing's Ruby Vroom. > > Good point, Soul Coughing sucks then mate.
I'll refrain from insulting you or Arovane, who I respect despite not enjoying Atol Scrap. -Ambassador Damek, Lord of High Love __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-07 15:56Duncan Krostue>>So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol >>Scrap is, to me, like comparing Plai
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[idm] Arovane, Phonem, and Soul Coughing.
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quoted 4 lines So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol>>So yeah, anyways, comparing BoC to Arovane's Atol >>Scrap is, to me, like comparing Plaid to Soul >>Coughing's Ruby Vroom. >Good point, Soul Coughing sucks then mate.
did you miss the point entirely? No, Soul Coughing does not suck. I saw them play live when they still existed. At the Metro in Chicago a few years back. The performance was like no other. Every instrument and every sound they made complimented eachother is such a way that that inner sence of being is appealed to the language of their rythems and lyrics. They even impoved a song when Mark had to restart his computer... The 5% Nation of Mark De Gli Antoni Fans Mark is a very talented musician. His solo release, Horse Tracks, is one of those CDs that is very uplifting, and very deversified. Truely intelegent livingroom music. ...the talented, experimental, sampler colleague composer / magician" -- Mark's astounding virtuosity, mastery of new media and instrumental inventiveness is sure to surprise and delight both diehard fans and newcomers alike." ...but don't take my word for it. -=dVh=- <Phonem and Arovane info = begin repost> One to drool over... Here is the press release for a forthcoming album I think we will all be interested in hearing. . Arovane_Phonem: aer [valid] cd (Vertical Form) Tracks: - valid rand - aer [valid] - valid fard - [fard] ent:r - neyem - suffer - decay - blacksoil Aer [valid] is an exclusive collaboration between renowned electronic artists Arovane and Phonem. Having released critically acclaimed work on Berlin labels such as Din and Morr Music, this joint venture marks the first album release for UK’s Vertical Form label and is part of a series of ongoing projects for the label with both musicians. Bored of the radion with it’s narrow formats and choice? This music refelects the real barrage of sounds and information that we are greeted with every day. Digitally constructed but emotive and with soul - an antidote to the pre-packaged banalities of much of modern popular music, the sounds tap into a world-wide network of musicians and listeners, offering something limitless and free of commercial restraints and is a welcome addition to the rich vein of electronic music produced over three decades from Germany. Written with contrasting techniques, Arovane uses only hardware, having learnt modular-analogue sythesis from scratch, whereas Phonem originally started writing on an Atari games computer. For those already aware of Uwe Zahn and Elliot Perkins’ solo work, this should be an intriguing mix - for those yet to hear, prepare to be impressed. The music, showing classic techno roots mixed with high-tech gitch, ambient, dub and noise, ebbs and flows from distorted, clipped beats through to clouds of melody containing splinters and human voice and found sound (Phonem was a language student and describes his work as "a very vocal project."). An edgy mood shifts into childlike harmonies often within the same track while unexpected contrasts gives way to tracks of languidity and relaxation that are a million miles away from "chill out" or lounge music. There is also a spontaneity of the tracks at odds with some other electronic music; Arovane has said elsewhere how he is looking for "the perfect interface between man and machine", so technique is never present at the expense of emotion. Often demanding, but equally rewarding this is an album to immerse yourself in from beginning to end; as Phonem says "one big research project", but this is in no way mere laboratory music, this is sound science with soul. Credits: Tracks 1, 2, 3 & 8 w/p by Arovane_Phonem, 4 & 5 w/p by Arovane, 6 & 7 w/p by Phonem. Catalogue No: VFROM008CD Release date: July 02, 2001 So far, from what i've heard of this release, it lives up to the very flowery hype listed above. My review coming as soon as I get a chance to hear the release in it's entirity. -->-Lance---- PO Box 450715 Westlake, OH 44145 United States </end repost> ]:^P> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-07 17:04Tom PereiraHi, I seem to rememeber reading that dj Krust (full cycle) was in soul coughing - what exa
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[idm] Re: Arovane, Phonem, and Soul Coughing.
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Hi, I seem to rememeber reading that dj Krust (full cycle) was in soul coughing - what exactly was his involvement? I'm intrigued.
quoted 4 lines Duncan Krostue <duncan@cyberlink.com> said:>Duncan Krostue <duncan@cyberlink.com> said: >No, Soul Coughing does not suck. I saw them play live when they still >existed. At the Metro in Chicago a few years back. The performance was >like no other.
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