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rlim@escape.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines There's one piece of his on the Sub Rosa comp

>There's one piece of his on the Sub Rosa comp >"Futurism and Dada Revisited", but it's interpreted in a very contemporary >style

anyone who can point me to a copy of this at an accessible price is a very nice person :-) I keep finding it at extortionate prices, and it is out of print now. (duchamp)

quoted 2 lines I think the same label put out an entire full-length of one of his

>I think the same label put out an entire full-length of one of his >compositions, but I haven't heard it.

no, it's a spoken word release, featuring interviews and conference speeches. it's very very interesting and inspiring for anyone who is open about their approach to art and its mechanisms.

quoted 2 lines Not to say that Duchamp=Dada, but

>Not to say that Duchamp=Dada, but >it's surely an avenue worth pursuing...

(...) >Something like

quoted 2 lines V/Vm is perhaps closer to Dada. Even Aphex is closer to Dada than

> > V/Vm is perhaps closer to Dada. Even Aphex is closer to Dada than > > Autechre in his pranksterism.

Though he fully belonged to the surrealism movement, I think Erik Satie had a dada streak in himself too, but it shows up more in his writings than in his music (his collaboration with the avantgarde mostly took place in the surrealist area and period, in fact.). As far as I know dada music was destructive, and was only conceived as an application in theatre. Sheer shocking noise mayhem designed to shock and zero the spectators' senses and critical stance.

quoted 2 lines Autechre's

>Autechre's >current direction seems to be opposite the approach used in concrete.

Interesting. Could you expand a bit more? nd np: radio scotland :-( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 04:51 PM 6/6/01 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines "The Entire Musical Work" on Dog W/a Bone (note- this title might be as

>"The Entire Musical Work" on Dog W/a Bone (note- this title might be as >accurate as Arista's "Complete Anthony Braxton" 2LP, or it could be a >reference to a latter day Cage opera- you decide!) and "Erratum Musicale" >on Sub Rosa.

"The Entire Musical Work" is 2 early Duchamp compositions (all circa 1913 I believe), 3 performances. It includes 2 performances of "Erratum Musicale" and one of another, less known composition. I believe the "Erratum Musicale" CD contains only one performance of the piece, and I don't know if it's the same as either on "Entire Musical Work."

quoted 2 lines Sorry I can't help you with the Futurism/Dada CD- I thought this was

>Sorry I can't help you with the Futurism/Dada CD- I thought this was >repressed a couple of years ago?

I believe LTM Publishing rereleased the Sub Rosa CD about a year ago. I don't know how easy it is to get, though. Does anyone know if there are any recordings out there of the Cage / Duchamp performance based on a game of chess? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, andrij kopytko. wrote:

quoted 2 lines Does anyone know if there are any recordings out there of the Cage /

> Does anyone know if there are any recordings out there of the Cage / > Duchamp performance based on a game of chess?

Sorta. There was a book published in 1968 about the event, which includes a flexi of sounds from the performance (which brings the total number of flexis required to complete a Gordon Mumma discography to two). It was limited to 500 copies, so good luck finding it. You can read more details by checking out http://www.aqualoop.com/aqua_sound/delia/delia_BrokenD5.html (two words: Rene Block). I would've thought the Cage/Duchamp record on Finnadar would be a second bet, but no such luck. -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org