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> Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the

quoted 3 lines venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding

> venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding > sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost > impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups).

That's interesting considering Bowery Ballroom has one of the best soundsystems of all the venues in NYC. I thought the sound was superb. Maybe there were some funny spots where the sound got too distorted. TekDz9er --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 7 May 2001, Rob Salit wrote:

quoted 4 lines The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding

> The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding > > sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost > > impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups). >

The first time I read this I thought you said: (think Dinosaur Jr. stomping on the Dixie Chicks) Man I was impressed, I said to myself "does this guy know his music or what" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 12 lines On Mon, 7 May 2001, Rob Salit wrote:

> On Mon, 7 May 2001, Rob Salit wrote: > >> The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding >>> sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost >>> impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups). >> > > The first time I read this I thought you said: (think Dinosaur Jr. > stomping on the Dixie Chicks) > Man I was impressed, I said to myself "does this guy know his music or > what" >

That's cool. Only that wasn't me that you were quoting. TekDz9er --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 7 May 2001, Rob Salit wrote:

quoted 6 lines Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the

> > Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the > > venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding > > That's interesting considering Bowery Ballroom has one of the best > soundsystems of all the venues in NYC. I thought the sound was superb. > Maybe there were some funny spots where the sound got too distorted.

OK, maybe I should have used the word "acoustics" instead of "sound system." My bad. There's no need to make the Bowery Ballroom sound reasonable- it's probably my least favorite place in New York to see a gig, even worse than the Cooler (who, [un]fortunately, books a lot of interesting acts). Next time.... Twilo? Has anybody been downstairs @ Centro-Fly? Respond off-list if need be. Sigur Ros- lugubrious two hour set (including one lighter-rousting ballad and a couple songs towards the end which were downright mid-tempo), guitar sound lifted wholesale from Slowdive, makes me want to dye my hair black again and put eggwhites in it. Hmmm, I guess my hair's already black, fuck. in the same deep water as you, -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Autechre were very good, but Russell Haswell rules. That recording he has of the journalist getting really excited about "Altern-8 are about to take the stage" is classic. Although he seemed to upset quite a few people I loved his harsh noise/death metal set, but then a mis-spent youth doing acid and listening to Whitehouse records will do that to you. Jeff on 5/9/01 1:56 PM, R. Lim at rlim@escape.com wrote:

quoted 31 lines On Mon, 7 May 2001, Rob Salit wrote:

> On Mon, 7 May 2001, Rob Salit wrote: > >>> Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the >>> venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding >> >> That's interesting considering Bowery Ballroom has one of the best >> soundsystems of all the venues in NYC. I thought the sound was superb. >> Maybe there were some funny spots where the sound got too distorted. > > OK, maybe I should have used the word "acoustics" instead of "sound > system." My bad. There's no need to make the Bowery Ballroom sound > reasonable- it's probably my least favorite place in New York to see a > gig, even worse than the Cooler (who, [un]fortunately, books a lot of > interesting acts). Next time.... Twilo? Has anybody been downstairs @ > Centro-Fly? Respond off-list if need be. > > Sigur Ros- lugubrious two hour set (including one lighter-rousting ballad > and a couple songs towards the end which were downright mid-tempo), guitar > sound lifted wholesale from Slowdive, makes me want to dye my hair black > again and put eggwhites in it. Hmmm, I guess my hair's already black, > fuck. > > in the same deep water as you, > > -rob > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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At 16:37 09/05/01, Jeff/Ninja Tune wrote:

quoted 5 lines Autechre were very good, but Russell Haswell rules. That recording he has of

>Autechre were very good, but Russell Haswell rules. That recording he has of >the journalist getting really excited about "Altern-8 are about to take the >stage" is classic. Although he seemed to upset quite a few people I loved >his harsh noise/death metal set, but then a mis-spent youth doing acid and >listening to Whitehouse records will do that to you.

That was Russell Haswell? I thought that was Rob Hall doing the inscrutable noise/death metal set and Russell, the Warp / Gary Numan / electro / Kraftwerk / EBM / M3rck / Chocolate tribute. I've never seen either of them live before and I'm not familiar with their work, so I can't be sure. But in any event, I really liked the first set. I thought Autechre was uninspiringly blah. But the sound did suck for their set. Julian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 09/05/01 16:24, Julian So said in living color:

quoted 10 lines At 16:37 09/05/01, Jeff/Ninja Tune wrote:

> At 16:37 09/05/01, Jeff/Ninja Tune wrote: >> Autechre were very good, but Russell Haswell rules. That recording he has of >> the journalist getting really excited about "Altern-8 are about to take the >> stage" is classic. Although he seemed to upset quite a few people I loved >> his harsh noise/death metal set, but then a mis-spent youth doing acid and >> listening to Whitehouse records will do that to you. > > That was Russell Haswell? I thought that was Rob Hall doing the inscrutable > noise/death metal set and Russell, the Warp / Gary Numan / electro / > Kraftwerk / EBM / M3rck / Chocolate tribute.

Nope, the inverse of that. One funny thing is that when Rob Hall's set finished and Russell Haswell came back to do the "second part" of his set (beginning by playing a Farmers Manual track from "fsck", IIRC), lots of people thought it was Autechre playing... :) Personally, I didn't like Russell Haswell's set that much... A couple of interesting passages and some funny moments, but overall, I didn't find it very compelling. (One of) the problem(s), for me, was that he never truly developed the sound objects he was playing with. "Hmm... I have these cool sounds... Geez, what could I do with that? Hmm..., let's switch to another snippet."

quoted 5 lines I've never seen either of them live before and I'm not familiar with their

> I've never seen either of them live before and I'm not familiar with their > work, so I can't be sure. But in any event, I really liked the first set. > > I thought Autechre was uninspiringly blah. But the sound did suck for their > set.

Again, a disagreement. I thought Autechre were really good. A different framework than their recorded output, but still fascinating stuff. I think that Autechre is the only entity in electronic music (in the "popular" field) to approach what could be called "spirituality" in their work. They're visionaries, they're truly connected to their, hum, let's call it "primal energies"... and it really shows in their music. I'd say that the relatively limited sound palette used for percussion (in comparison to what they use in their [recent] recorded tracks) throughout the show is the only thing that actually bothered me. One thing that surprised me was how they were providing very clear "guides" that delimited the "path" they were taking, so people could easily follow the flow of the music. And if you were able to follow what went on *inside* those guides, there were great treasures to reward the listener for his participation. Anyway, this listener. g. -- Guillaume Grenier - gollum@videotron.ca in space there is no north in space there is no south in space there is no east in space there is no west --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

got an extra ticket for the friday night show. dont know if its sold out, but 20 and a beer gets it. cl clietz@enteract.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org