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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Surge0001 Initial Release -- Surgery Compilation 01 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ More of a cohesive album of tracks than a collection of disparate musical moments, Australian based Surgery Records "Initial Release" is a 2 disc compilation of 26 tracks from 25 artists from around the world. Compiled over an 18 month period by Tim Koch [ Aural Industries / deFocus / Surgery ]. It acts as an introduction to the general aesthetic of the label. Stylistically, the compilation is a balanced combination of dynamic rhythms, well crafted melody, daydream inducing ambience, and a touch of quirkiness. A data component on the CD contains pictures, animations, MP3s and artists contact information. Tracklist:

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01.Aspen - 'My Music is in Your Mouth' 02.Fizzarum - 'Exivyd' 03.Lackluster - '11/11/99' 04.Duann - 'Loose Change' 05.Octopus Inc. - 'Open Tooth' 06.K-RAD - '174lemn' 07.Boulderdash - 'Casio Kid' 08.Mitchell Akiyama - 'i tride' 09.Pretty Boy Cross Over - 'Pencil Box <Basement>' 10.Cornelius W - 'Discop' 11 .Mr.Projectile - 'Flying Sounds' 12.Sleepy - 'Foob' 13.JetJaguar - 'Loss Apache'

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01.Vim! - 'Thin Strips of You' 02.md - 'New York Middle Class' 03.Bauri - 'It Doesn't Matter' 04.Epoq - 'Snow Globe' 05.Jeremy Dower - 'dr.DX100 and the PC folk ensemble - sweet dreams' 06.Eric Skogen - 'Gosub' 07.CiM - 'Track' 08.Novel23 - 'M.L' 09.Plod - 'Boyta' 10.Super Science vs. OPC - 'Electrified the Sky' 11.K-Rad - '149idn' 12.Vim! - 'Jackey Batey' 13.Unagi Patrol - 'Party' 14.Orpheus - 'Ascend' "..With CD-Rom enhanced data and a full 2CD package involving a plethora of artists worldwide, Initial Release shines the spotlight on the next wave of ambient experimental music ... " Pietro Da Sacco [ Grooves / Igloo ] Available for purchase online at: www.skimo.com www.safetyinnumbers.net Sound clips online at: www.surgeryrecords.com.au [ shockwave required ] ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- Miscellaneous Surgery News -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Surge0004 - Aspen 'Are You That Retail Snob' Our repress of the highly acclaimed and sought after "Are You That Retail Snob" CD is now available once again. "Were you to retrofit Klaus Schulze's lushly strobing and scintillating synth-sequenced alpha waves with the finest in Y2K-compliant rhythm craft, you might find yourself in the province of New Zealand's Bevan Smith. With his second Aspen album, a much more focused Smith lets his brain-bending ophidian melodies uncoil to the tick of a hip hop-tinged electro metronome" + + + + Surge0002cd - Super Science 'Love Like Life In Miniature' Surge0003cd - Modula 'Audio Dismantle' Both titles [ as well as Aspen re-release ]re-stocked at a cheaper price at www.skimo.com and www.safetyinnumbers.net . Sound clips online at: www.surgeryrecords.com.au + + + + Forthcoming: Surge0005 cd -- Pretty Boy Crossover - 'The Building and Formation' Surge0006 cd -- Vim! - 'Linden - Home of the Hits' ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tim Koch. [ www.surgeryrecords.com.au ] [ tim@surgeryrecords.com.au ] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines Initial Release -- Surgery Compilation 01

> Initial Release -- Surgery Compilation 01 > [...] > Stylistically, the compilation is a balanced > combination of dynamic rhythms, well crafted melody, > daydream inducing ambience, and a touch of quirkiness. > [...]

and how true that is! this compilation is essential, a true contender for the top10 lists of 2001. got it on heavy rotation for six weeks now, no sign of getting bored. highest recommendation. get it. now. ciao, wolf. ----://----------------------------------------------------- mailto:wolf@kompaktkiste.de http://www.soliton-records.de/soliton.htm http://www.kompaktkiste.de ----://----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

could someone send me a tracklisting for the Crunch cd? a quick search has turned up nothing for me. thanks ]|=-Brian Hulick-=|[ ./.Life is unfair; Kill yourself or get over it..\. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 12 lines could someone send me a tracklisting for the Crunch cd? a quick search has

>could someone send me a tracklisting for the Crunch cd? a quick search has >turned up nothing for me. >thanks > > >]|=-Brian Hulick-=|[ >./.Life is unfair; Kill yourself or get over it..\. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

. Crunch: s/t cd (Musik Aus Strom) Tracks: - grama - sponge - am.lma - pollen - emedr.l - crumb - stem.t.l - lobot - art pylon - welt - catalon - made v.ke - toe tac t.c - snuff - werds -- -->-Lance---- PO Box 450715 Westlake, OH 44145 United States --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

fyi there's also sooper sekret hidden last track on side D of the vinyl... -Gil On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Lance @ Inaudible wrote:

quoted 43 lines could someone send me a tracklisting for the Crunch cd? a quick search has

> >could someone send me a tracklisting for the Crunch cd? a quick search has > >turned up nothing for me. > >thanks > > > > > >]|=-Brian Hulick-=|[ > >./.Life is unfair; Kill yourself or get over it..\. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > . Crunch: s/t cd (Musik Aus Strom) > Tracks: > - grama > - sponge > - am.lma > - pollen > - emedr.l > - crumb > - stem.t.l > - lobot > - art pylon > - welt > - catalon > - made v.ke > - toe tac t.c > - snuff > - werds > > -- > > -->-Lance---- > PO Box 450715 > Westlake, OH 44145 > United States > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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I seem to have misplaced my Warp copy of Ae's LP5. Before I run off and buy it again, could someone tell me the difference between the Warp/import version and the US domestic version, other than artwork? thanks nate --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I think the difference is the Warp version has that "secret track" located before the first track actually starts, so you would have to rewind from track one, and on the Nothing issue its located a few minutes after the last track. On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, n:h wrote:

quoted 14 lines I seem to have misplaced my Warp copy of Ae's LP5. Before I run off and

> > I seem to have misplaced my Warp copy of Ae's LP5. Before I run off and > buy it again, could someone tell me the difference between the > Warp/import version and the US domestic version, other than artwork? > > thanks > > nate > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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was wondering how everyone out there acquires their music; in other words how do you determine what you get on vinyl as opposed to CD as opposed to "simply" MP3 myself i'm a vinyl connoisseur when possible, but have ample quantities of the other formats but sometimes when a new full-length comes out i debate whether it's necessary to obtain the wax version; guess the question is if the music will be used during DJ sets and turntable mixing rather than simply home/car listening... then again vinyl is the unique medium which can be most easily transferred to both CDR and MP3 thanks for the input _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

the rest- i go for mp3s in the car, on the walkman, even at home when you live in a City that never sleeps- all those invironments they are noisy enough so mp3 of a decent bitrate is a way to go. cd format was invented by record companies to squeese money from the public i mean, cmon, $17 for 12 track that most of the time are not worth even the time you kill to listen to the crap! In the future those artists and labels who will be selling at the rate $1 for one hour of music- they will prosper __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, s r wrote:

quoted 6 lines cd format was invented by record companies to

> cd format was invented by record companies to > squeese money from the public > > i mean, cmon, $17 for 12 track that most of the > time are not worth even the time you kill to > listen to the crap!

Here's an interesting essay that a lot of have probably already seen (it's pretty old), but whatever. It talks about how artists and consumers are alike are getting screwed by artificially inflated prices for CDs. http://www.negativland.com/minidis.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

honestly my view is this - i buy everything on vinyl. then i make mixes down to mp3s which i occassionally burn to cds to listen to. i don't normally buy any CDs, unless its something that totally floors me and i can't get it on vinyl. i don't download many mp3s, although i do use mp3s to help me determine what i might want to buy or listen to more. just one vote for people to release more vinyl. - cutups

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> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Goldsworth" <keving173@hotmail.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 4:29 PM > Subject: [idm] quick question > > > > was wondering how everyone out there acquires their music; in other

words

quoted 1 line how do you determine what you get on vinyl as opposed to CD as opposed

> > how do you determine what you get on vinyl as opposed to CD as opposed

to

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> > "simply" MP3 > > > > myself i'm a vinyl connoisseur when possible, but have ample quantities

of

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> > the other formats > > > > but sometimes when a new full-length comes out i debate whether it's > > necessary to obtain the wax version; guess the question is if the music > will > > be used during DJ sets and turntable mixing rather than simply home/car > > listening... then again vinyl is the unique medium which can be most > easily > > transferred to both CDR and MP3 > > > > thanks for the input > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

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generally speaking i prefer to purchase CDs. often times i'll try to download mp3s and see just how much i actually like something, and if i really enjoy it i'll track down the CD or wax. As for vinyl, I prefer CDs only because I can transport them elsewhere for listening (i.e., work and home, etc), and they are easier to take care of. However, if something has extra nice artwork in the LP edition I'll get the vinyl. I generally only pick up vinyl if it's unavailable on CD, usually 12" singles these days. If the shop up the road only has the vinyl sometimes I'll just do that since it's convenient, despite my CD preference. I personally think CDs are the most easily transferred to CDR or MP3, because it's all handled within my computer directly without having to connect the turntable, grab tracks one by one, convert, etc.... a big pain in my opinion. in fact sometimes it's easier if i've purchased vinyl to just do a quick search for mp3s and hopefully get them digitally pretty fast without going to the lengths of encoding them myself, which can take an entire afternoon.

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>From: "Kevin Goldsworth" <keving173@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] quick question >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 16:29:34 -0500 > >was wondering how everyone out there acquires their music; in other words >how do you determine what you get on vinyl as opposed to CD as opposed to >"simply" MP3 > >myself i'm a vinyl connoisseur when possible, but have ample quantities of >the other formats > >but sometimes when a new full-length comes out i debate whether it's >necessary to obtain the wax version; guess the question is if the music >will >be used during DJ sets and turntable mixing rather than simply home/car >listening... then again vinyl is the unique medium which can be most easily >transferred to both CDR and MP3 > >thanks for the input

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quoted 4 lines I'm sure there are plenty of Coil collectors and electronic music

>I'm sure there are plenty of Coil collectors and electronic music >collectors on these lists that have a lot of records in their collections, >and a lot of valuable ones at that. Have you got these records insured for >their true worth? And how did you go about it?

I looked in to it once. I have a large record collection and thought it a good idea to insure it. I was told I would have to list everything and place a value against each item. There were way too many, it would take forever, so I gave up. This way a while ago but I would expect they would ask for the same thing. ~Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Paul Lloyd said:

quoted 9 lines I'm sure there are plenty of Coil collectors and electronic music

> >>I'm sure there are plenty of Coil collectors and electronic music >>collectors on these lists that have a lot of records in their >>collections, and a lot of valuable ones at that. Have you got these >>records insured for their true worth? And how did you go about it? > > I looked in to it once. I have a large record collection and thought it > a good idea to insure it. I was told I would have to list everything > and place a value against each item. There were way too many, it

would

quoted 2 lines take forever, so I gave up. This way a while ago but I would expect

> take forever, so I gave up. This way a while ago but I would expect > they would ask for the same thing.

This is pretty much true for most any kind of specific insurance. My girlfriend an I have renter's insurance because it's cheap, but here's the catch -- to claim we actually have things, we need to document that and submit it to the insurance company. Things like clothes, furniture, kitchen stuff, etc. are generally covered more universally (as in, you don't need to write down that you have 3 t-shirts, 10 pairs of black socks, etc.), but the rarer items like electronics, rare records, etc. need to be documented. For instance, we have our CDs covered under the insurance plan, but we simply said "we have this many CD's, approximate retail value=X" Some of them are rare "idm" CD's (like Bola's "soup"), but I figured if anything happened to them, they're probably the least of my worries (and probably easily findable on soulseek (and since I already bought them, I have a right to keep backups ;D). the electronics, though, I had to write down the serial numbers for and everything. We're thinking also of taking pictures of all of our stuff in case something happens. There's a catch, though. If you just get insurance and give them ballpark figures of what you own, the rates will be relatively low. But so will the coverage. When my girlfriend and I actually submitted our list of electronics equipment, and asked for an increase in electronics coverage (as the standard is $5k of general electronics (cd's, tv's, non-kitchen etc.), they knew we had at least $5k of stuff and upped it a lot more than what would be proportional to simply an increase in overall coverage. In other words, to up our coverage from $20k w/ $5k of electronics to $30k w/ $10k of electronics, the increase was more than simply simple math -- they knew we had more expensive stuff and that if we filed a claim they would be out a lot more money. However, I still feel it's definitely worth it if you value your stuff. If youspeak to an insurance place about collectible stuff, not only will they ask you to write down what everything is, they'll also ask for proof of value. They may accept something like eBay, or they may need things to be professionally appraised. As appraisers are probably not hip to underground music, it might be tough. But as general coverage will still cover records for at least their retail value, it's still worthwhile. Ifyour place caught fire and you lost that rare coil record worth $40, would you rather recoup $10-15 or nothing at all? derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ catchy signature coming soon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

When I suffered a break-in last year and had some CD's stolen, the insurance company replaced them at R100 each (that's less than half the current price of an import). This they tell me, is their standard replacement fee and 'average' cost of your 'average' music consumer's 'average' item. They compute this by averaging out items bought new, imports / local pressings / second hand shop bargains and... euphemistically referring to home-burns as *compilations* :-) Unfortunately theft, armed robberies and 'home invasions' (break-ins with the occupants present, usually forced at gun-point to open safes, and reveal valuable) are soooooo commonplace in South Africa, that insurance premiums are steep. Any items insured under the "all risk" section are even more expensive to insure, and usually a year's cover would replace the item anyway, so it all becomes a bit over the top. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines I'm sure there are plenty of Coil collectors and electronic music

> >I'm sure there are plenty of Coil collectors and electronic music > >collectors on these lists that have a lot of records in their collections, > >and a lot of valuable ones at that. Have you got these records insured for > >their true worth? And how did you go about it?

i actually have 30% of the records i own in my current apartment, and the rest in storage until i have another room for them... and i decided to get renters insurance because it ended up costing so little.. for about 320 dollars a year, i have $55,000 worth of insurance on ONLY my bike, all music/dvds, and audio/video/computer equipment. basically my furniture and clothing isn't covered. it covers anything that might happen to my stuff including fire, theft, flood damage, remote theft (if you went to a club with all your Mask records and every autechre/aphex record and they got stolen, you're still covered) etc.. the only thing NOT covered is earthquakes (earthquake insurance costs an arm and a leg in sf) , which is understandable considering i live in san francisco in a house that was built in 1882. :) -kiya --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I bookmarked a number of good music review sites, but now can't find them - I'd be very grateful if anybody could tell me urls for good sites. Many thanks in advance, Colin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org