quoted 8 lines So here's a challenge folks: Come up with a better term than IDM and
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>So here's a challenge folks: Come up with a better term than IDM and
>we can see if we can make it catch on!
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>My suggestions:
>ping music
>Living Room
>Outhouse (hey we've had garage and house)quoted 31 lines so we're back to one of the commonest threads on the list :
>so we're back to one of the commonest threads on the list :
>dissatisfaction with the term 'idm'. if i may summarize its famous
>history : it began to describe a few brits (notably afx--the
>original subject of this list) who would make thumpy-thumpy dance
>music that didn't have a comforting house feel, but felt a bit
>manic, twitchy, yet very melodic. when these artists (e.g. warp
>crew) simultaneously began exploring the deconstruction of jungle
>music with the same weird vibe, the term 'idm' followed them,
>because there weren't a lot of people doing this sort of thing to
>dance music, so very different sounds were cast into the same genre.
>then it really becomes a mess. a new wave of artists doing very
>simple, happy-bouncy synthesizer music (e.g. solvent, plone) are
>decidedly 'idm' from the get-go, even though this sort of music has
>been around for decades. squarepusher starts doing jazzy stuff ;
>because of his name, THAT becomes idm. minimal/ambient house
>emerges in germany, along with noise/unmusical stuff (e.g. oval) and
>these progressively become assimilated into idm culture. if we may
>say that common threads on the list make a type of music into idm,
>then it also encompasses certain ambient artists (e.g. vladislav
>delay), some techno, and some more experimental stuff. now, the
>very loose application of the term 'idm' makes for a very diverse
>idm community (just watch the stupid debates of opinion for a
>sample) ; it effectively unites a number of small off-beat genres
>into one, over-arching 'we don't like normal stuff' sort of
>community. so the moral of the story is, just keep saying 'idm',
>and don't tell people what it stands for (a stalinesque act of
>erasing its history would be in order) ; the fact is, *we've got a
>name for it*, it's too late to invent a new one and re-engineer our
>community, but just recognize what a diversity of denotations the
>word carries. (beware the connotations as well--people will
>probably think you're a fancy, show-offy idm-l snob!)