quoted 8 lines So here's a challenge folks: Come up with a better term than IDM and>
>So here's a challenge folks: Come up with a better term than IDM and
>we can see if we can make it catch on!
>
>My suggestions:
>ping music
>Living Room
>Outhouse (hey we've had garage and house)
when will idm'ers stop making this post ? it's a testament to
unformed face of the genre, a 'community' of people who are still
looking for some kind of communal indentification. look, it's called
'idm', the name sucks, but it's too late to change it. i personally
don't see anything about the counting crows that "rock". but alas
they are rock music. too late to change that !
one thing is that several genres in electronic music were named after
the venues they were popularized in : house (chicago's the
warehouse), garage (new york's paradise garage), jungle (london's the
jungle), etc. the funny thing, though is that idm, quite
interestingly is simultaneously developping in at least five cities
right now accross the world, although no idm weekly can seem to stay
in business (RIP sf's static) : our only unified locale is the
internet. so call it 'internet dork music'.
'it doesn't matter' ! the beauty of the term is that it's an acronym
and you don't have to say what it stands for.
will you let me be an ass an quote myself ? sorry. post called 'Re:
[idm] IDM is not downtempo (a historical analysis)' from 12.19.2000 :
quoted 31 lines so we're back to one of the commonest threads on the list :>so we're back to one of the commonest threads on the list :
>dissatisfaction with the term 'idm'. if i may summarize its famous
>history : it began to describe a few brits (notably afx--the
>original subject of this list) who would make thumpy-thumpy dance
>music that didn't have a comforting house feel, but felt a bit
>manic, twitchy, yet very melodic. when these artists (e.g. warp
>crew) simultaneously began exploring the deconstruction of jungle
>music with the same weird vibe, the term 'idm' followed them,
>because there weren't a lot of people doing this sort of thing to
>dance music, so very different sounds were cast into the same genre.
>then it really becomes a mess. a new wave of artists doing very
>simple, happy-bouncy synthesizer music (e.g. solvent, plone) are
>decidedly 'idm' from the get-go, even though this sort of music has
>been around for decades. squarepusher starts doing jazzy stuff ;
>because of his name, THAT becomes idm. minimal/ambient house
>emerges in germany, along with noise/unmusical stuff (e.g. oval) and
>these progressively become assimilated into idm culture. if we may
>say that common threads on the list make a type of music into idm,
>then it also encompasses certain ambient artists (e.g. vladislav
>delay), some techno, and some more experimental stuff. now, the
>very loose application of the term 'idm' makes for a very diverse
>idm community (just watch the stupid debates of opinion for a
>sample) ; it effectively unites a number of small off-beat genres
>into one, over-arching 'we don't like normal stuff' sort of
>community. so the moral of the story is, just keep saying 'idm',
>and don't tell people what it stands for (a stalinesque act of
>erasing its history would be in order) ; the fact is, *we've got a
>name for it*, it's too late to invent a new one and re-engineer our
>community, but just recognize what a diversity of denotations the
>word carries. (beware the connotations as well--people will
>probably think you're a fancy, show-offy idm-l snob!)
i hardly got any replies to this ? was it that stupid/accurate ? thanks.
.af.
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