On 26 Jan 2001, ...(Sunsp0t)... wrote:
quoted 7 lines for sure...I still don't like EP7 in comparison to my utter and
>>for sure...I still don't like EP7 in comparison to my utter and
>>complete love of their previous releases...
>
>I feel the same way. Tri Repetae was great and then the descent
>began. Despite the supposed genius behind EP7 that some observed,
>I still think its a piece of crap. Complexity without depth is
>just a piece of shit in a nice carrying case. :)
I'm neither the same nor the opposite. I like both "old" Autechre
(ala Incunabula, Amber, and Tri Repetae), and "new" Autechre
(Chiastic Slide thru EP7). I just spent a couple of days listening
through all of their albums and a few EPs in chronological order. I
don't hear a switch at any point between these releases. On the
contrary, I hear a constant change in their sound. In fact, I would
say there is no "old" Autechre and no "new" Autechre - just an
evolving (not progressing - there's a difference) sound. I like it
all.
Personally, I love LP5 and EP7 - I think they're gorgeous, although I
think Chiastic Slide is better. As for people "copying the
glitch/dsp sound," the only artists that come to mind when those
words are spoken are all in some way connected to the Mille Plateaux
label family. I tend to stay away from them. Anyway, it seems to me
that the people who get discussed most on this list are specifically
those obsessed with childish melodies - Aspen, Arovane, Lackluster,
Solvent, etc. etc. etc. - the glitch/dsp crowd is, IMHO, rather
small. The most recent compilations talked about are all oriented
towards melodies - Cashier Escape Route, Artefacts, Putting The Morr
Back In Morrisy, Squadron, etc. etc.
In fact, I would venture to say that *no one* has copied the most
recent "Autechre sound" - everyone out there seems to still be
influenced by older Incunabula, Amber, and Tri Repetae. A lot of
stuff I hear lately sounds old and boring compared to where
Squarepusher, Autechre, and Aphex were going around 1997-1999. I
can't wait for a new album from any of them. All the newcomers in
1999-2000 seem to be trying to fill a void with copies of
1993-1995-era music.
To my ears anyway - I realize that there are really people who like
Mille Plateaux and that sort of sound...
As for Richard Devine not having melody (somebody said this), you
must have only heard a couple of his comp tracks and Lipswitch,
because his Schematic work is *full* of melodies. I just recently
got Lipswitch and, while I do quite dig it, I don't feel it's better
than his Schematic EP, if only because it's messier and lacks
melodies.
quoted 2 lines What happened to melody? Why has everyone jumped on this steel
>What happened to melody? Why has everyone jumped on this steel
>factory-sounding motif?
Who are you listening to? If anything, it seems to me that IDM is
stricken with a dated "melody" virus. Why did everyone get so bored
with drill-n-bass and braindancy rhythms so quick? I fell in with
this stuff because of that music (1997-1998-ish), and suddenly it's
"old," and the people who say they don't like drill-n-bass are
telling me that the epitome of IDM is nearly 10-year-old music from
the early days of Warp. Not to use Warp as the measuring stick of
IDM, of course, but it seems to me at times that many people wish for
the "old days of Warp," while I find a solid evolution in the Warp
sound and love pretty much everything they release these days. I
think a lot of the newer small labels peddling medlodies are just
filling a void created when Warp moved on and many of their listeners
didn't.
-adam
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