quoted 113 lines Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:18:56 -0800
>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:18:56 -0800
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>From: Kevin Blechdom <kevin@belief-systems.com>
>Subject: Fwd: Re: [idm] Fwd: CEX/Tigerbeat6 night
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>whoa, kind of overwhelming, didn't expect that level of blanketting of
>that many people into the "shithead" catagory. but these are friends,
>including seth (my roommate)...i know these people are all really busy,
>especially when they're playing a show are not really able to hang out
>with people that come, and it's unfortunate. and if this is the feeling
>you get at the shows it really upsets me. i'm usually too busy running
>around to talk to anyone and we get nervous before playing and then
>afterward all self conscious....i love playing music, but i'm no good at
>the other stuff. i hope that's not being confused with pretentious
>assholeness, i listen to the music first, i know a bunch of unpleasant
>musicians who have a lot to say and a lot to offer and deal with they're
>social dysfunction by expressing it through music, i'm very interested in
>what they have to say, even if they can't communicate to me otherwise. we
>are not claiming to be the open arms of electronic music but we are all
>are just people going through life and trying our hardest to make the best
>of it, and if it doesn't fit in with what you want and need right now, i'm
>sorry...but if you want to hear the music, please come to the show and
>maybe we can break through some of this shit. i don't know. if you care
>enough to say this perhaps you can help change it and make it more your
>own some how, if you have positive ideas let me know. i'm not gonna write
>to the list anymore it just gets worse.
>oh brother,
>kevin blechdom
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>>yet i've been in the SF music scene for over seven straight hard years, and
>>i've been through many of the more "underground" scenes, from rockabilly to
>>idm. i went to every static at 330 ritch, went to every kid606 show, have
>>seen you perform over three times now at various places like the peacock
>>lounge, BUT, i all my years, i have never been involved with a type of
>>music, where the artists are such complete and utter pretentious assholes.
>>not necassarily you, just the whole idm scene in general in sf has taken a
>>turn for the worst. and it all started with this laptop-idm crowd, such as
>>kid606, cex, and the whole tigerbeat crowd. everybody is so fucking
>>unfriendly, that it turns me off their music. jimg is right, there is NO
>>community feeling when going to these shows. i pay my cover, i go in and i
>>buy the 10"s, yet i get not a nod of respect when i speak to these people
>>from anybody involved in these projects, not kid, not lesser, not cex, not
>>jesse, not goldchain, not clayton... there are only a few that i know, and
>>am friends with that are "nice", such as seth (sutekh), but then, he's been
>>doing this before cex had a computer.
>>
>>no animosity. just mere feelings i get when i attend these shows, and i
>>will continue to attend.
>>
>> -kiya
>>i am a copier.
>> we are not all copiers.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Kevin Blechdom <kevin@belief-systems.com>
>>To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:58 PM
>>Subject: [idm] Fwd: CEX/Tigerbeat6 night
>>
>>
>>> >hi there idm peeps and jimG:
>>> >
>>> >i'm organizing this tigerbeat6 label night called TIGERBOMB and i want to
>>> >personally invite you JimG to come have fun at the show with our music
>>> >community. no, we won't have any drum circles for you to play with or
>>> >ecstasy massage clinics, but we'll all get together and listen to music
>>> >together, maybe have a drink. all we wanna do is have good live music on
>>a
>>> >good sound system. but the kind of community we're building is one that
>>> >doesn't kick quality musicians out just because they have a big inflated
>>> >ego like cex...but he's got the jams, yo, so come hang out with other
>>> >people who like the jams, if you want...i think if you came you'd realize
>>> >it's not like the "i'm-cooler-than-thou" indy-rocker/clique you imagine,
>>> >but we're just a bunch of dorks obsessed with electronic music, who don't
>>> >take themselves too seriously.
>>> >please come by, i'll even put you on the guestlist!
>>> >blove,
>>> >kevin blechdom
>>> >
>>> >Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>> >To: intelligent dancing meatloaf <idm@hyperreal.org>
>>> >From: jimg <skoop@slackers.net>
>>> >Subject: cex
>>> >Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000919101014.801A-100000@brigadoon>
>>> >
>>> >shit. I was actually thinking of attending one of the Tigerbeat6 SF
>>> >shows. Now I'm not sure that there'll be room for me there, alongside
>>> >this dude's ego. fuck that.
>>> >
>>> >-JimG <skoop@slackers.net>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >It's this whole "I'm-cooler-than-thou" indy-rocker/clique attitude that
>>> >turns me off to alot of the electronic music in SF.
>>> >
>>> >Where's the community spirit?
>>> >
>>> >-JimG
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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