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2000-09-08 16:03Jon [idm] Ae ripoffs
└─ 2000-09-18 18:47nick ring [idm] Papa, ooh Mau Mau! (Earthling/Dirty Beatniks)
2000-09-09 01:45steve Re: [idm] Ae ripoffs
2000-09-09 05:02William Samuels Re: [idm] Ae ripoffs
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2000-09-08 16:03JonMany artists use guitars, and yet when another does, he's not "ripping off" the previous a
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Many artists use guitars, and yet when another does, he's not "ripping off" the previous artist. By the same token using tones similair to another group isn't ripping them off either, with all of us working within the same parameters (midi, software), it's only natural that the end results will overlap. Also, it's fundamental to realize that nothing is truly original, everything is built upon or has pieces taken from something else. it's completely faulty ever to state that an artist with a closely related process is somehow indebted to whoever used the style first, because it's inevitable that they got it from somewhere else in the first place. cdin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-18 18:47nick ringHi, I was just looking through a recent issue of Rolling Stone, wherein was a review of th
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[idm] Papa, ooh Mau Mau! (Earthling/Dirty Beatniks)
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Hi, I was just looking through a recent issue of Rolling Stone, wherein was a review of the Dirty Beatniks, with a vocalist called Mau. Is this the same Mau from Earthling? the Radar album is a fave of mine and I've wondered where they'd gone off to.. Anyone know? Also, how is that dirty beatniks album? thanks, nick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-09 01:45steveAe has influenced lots of people..obviously. but I think that it is more a frame of mind o
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Ae has influenced lots of people..obviously. but I think that it is more a frame of mind or way of looking at gear or hearing sounds. I think we all can hear a song and be able to tell who the artist is..that is once you have listened to that artists previous songs etc....all these people have their own style..lex, Ae, funksotrung..whoever. there are other people doing things and sometimes they do them there whole lives and nobody knows about them or hears their music. I guess I'm just saying it comes down to taking your influences and not being overwhelmed by them. Making sure there is plenty of your personality in there. I think artists who get accused of ripping off Ae do a pretty good job of having their own style. ----------
quoted 5 lines From: Jon <k-rad@swbell.net>>From: Jon <k-rad@swbell.net> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] Ae ripoffs >Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2009, 1:03 PM >
quoted 19 lines Many artists use guitars, and yet when another does, he's not> Many artists use guitars, and yet when another does, he's not > "ripping off" the previous artist. By the same token using tones > similair to another group isn't ripping them off either, with all of us > working within the same parameters (midi, software), it's only natural > that the end results will overlap. Also, it's fundamental to realize > that nothing is truly original, everything is built upon or has pieces > taken from something else. it's completely faulty ever to state that an > artist with a closely related process is somehow indebted to whoever > used the style first, because it's inevitable that they got it from > somewhere else in the first place. > > cdin > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-09-09 05:02William Samuels--- Jon <k-rad@swbell.net> wrote: > Many artists use guitars, and yet when another > does,
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--- Jon <k-rad@swbell.net> wrote:
quoted 2 lines Many artists use guitars, and yet when another> Many artists use guitars, and yet when another > does, he's not "ripping off" the previous artist.
Being a little general aren't we... No one is saying that if someone uses a specific piece of gear that it is copying another artist. I think artists should use gear to make unique sounds. Optical for instances has talked about abusing their equipment, using it completely fucked up to make different sounds. Perhaps software has made things too easy, and people experiment less. With actual gear I think people might be more proned to experiment and fuck things up. Maybe I am wrong..
quoted 4 lines By the same token using tones similar to another> By the same token using tones similar to another > group isn't ripping them off either, with all of us > working within the same parameters (midi, software), > it's only natural that the end results will overlap.
There's a hell of a lot of difference between classic rock and a band like My Bloody Valentine. I think the difference is that MBV wanted had a vision and wanted to sound unique.
quoted 3 lines Also, it's fundamental to realize that nothing is> Also, it's fundamental to realize that nothing is > truly original, everything is built upon or has > pieces taken from something else.
Yeah your right, but that doesn't mean you should follow another artists style like a roadmap. It's great to be influenced just don't use their recipe and call it your own.
quoted 5 lines it's completely faulty ever to state that an> it's completely faulty ever to state that an > artist with a closely related process is somehow > indebted to whoever used the style first, because > it's inevitable that they got it from > somewhere else in the first place.
You must be under the impression no one blatantly copies another. I don't know how many times I have heard clone bands over the years. It kind of give me shivers thinking of all the Cure or REM clone bands I have heard. I guess because all the parties had the same instruments...it had nothing to do with copying. It was some sort of coincidental osmosis of gear & thoughts. ===== SWOPE TRANSMISSIONS - Listen on KUCI.org every FRIDAY Evening 6-9pm (Pacific) http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/swope-transmissions __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-13 15:07DynamiCell@aol.comIn a message dated 9/8/00 3:36:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, k-rad@swbell.net writes: << Al
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In a message dated 9/8/00 3:36:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, k-rad@swbell.net writes: << Also, it's fundamental to realize that nothing is truly original, everything is built upon or has pieces taken from something else >> A-men brother --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org