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quoted 2 lines anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that

> anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that > share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have

i've been trying for years and it's very hard to find a nice compilation with that stuff on it. the "Junglist Massive" comp is probably the best one-stop way to get your mitts on a bunch at once. i've resigned myself to nth-generation mixtapes to hear all that stuff :( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Jeff Shoemaker wrote:

quoted 8 lines anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that

> > anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that > > share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have > > i've been trying for years and it's very hard to find a nice compilation > with that stuff on it. the "Junglist Massive" comp is probably the best > one-stop way to get your mitts on a bunch at once. i've resigned myself to > nth-generation mixtapes to hear all that stuff :( >

While many have disagreed with me, I find the 'Jungle Tekno 5' CD from Jumpin & Pumpin to have several crucial tracks from that period. God knows where you could ever find that (and what happened to volumes 1 thru 4?) and just to keep it on topic here, there's a track by "Chaos & Julia Set" which is Tom and Mark from Global Communication. I will speak to my friendly neighborhood junglist, Moonrakker about doing an Old School mix CD. As it happens he played a set of lush tracks precisely in this vein saturday night, opening for Terrence Parker. And in my opinion, something really go lost in Drum & Bass when it got stripped down to 2 step. The whole concept of break deconstruction got thrown overboard in order to make it a real dance floor genre. If you're into the whole drill & bass thing, early jungle tracks are what inspired it. Though it's kind of a matter of, say, Muddy Waters VS Bonnie Raitt -- there's the original which was a world unto itself, and there's the after-the-fact people that come along and want to get in on something that's not a part of their culture. It's not to say that stuff like Squarepusher is exploitive or not valid on it's own terms, just that it's a reflection of and comment on the real deal. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i guess i'm about five years late with this one i have this compilation cd called "Junglist Massive" which contains about the only Jungle i have ever heard that really gets me excited... it's much more Dancehall/Ragga influenced than the post-Goldie Metalheadz garbage that saturated the jungle bins from about 1996 on. But anyway, i know that there has to be more stuff like the tracks on this comp. anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have if you don't like jungle, please don't bother telling me that... i know it's stupid and the amen breakbeat is played out but goddammit i wanna hear some! thanks! josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line This question is driving me nuts, I know there's a compilation that might

> This question is driving me nuts, I know there's a compilation that might

be

quoted 1 line good, though it's not as ragga heavy... it was a Suburban Bass

> good, though it's not as ragga heavy... it was a Suburban Bass

compilation,

quoted 1 line I wanna say it was a volume 3, and it wasn't the "Speed Limit" comps...

> I wanna say it was a volume 3, and it wasn't the "Speed Limit" comps...

hmmm. . .they had many comps. combined with the US "let's get a famous dj to remix tracks from our catalog" mix CDs and you've got probably 10-12 comps. i forgot to mention that a lot of older Suburban Bass singles that have been repressed. lots of good stuff there, but only singles. i'm still waiting for Remarc "RIP" remix to get repressed :) one of the nuttiest drum and bass tracks ever. the vocals are cut up more than the drums, and that's saying something! "ASHES TO ASHES, AND DUST TO DUST. NOW SOUNBWOY ALL I HAVE TO GIVE YOU IS A RING" oh yeah, i found some tracks on Scour that were from some Greensleeves comp. some of the tracks were rather dodgy, but some were really good. ymmv. -junglist and everyting then --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that

> > anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that > > share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have > > i've been trying for years and it's very hard to find a nice compilation > with that stuff on it. the "Junglist Massive" comp is probably the best > one-stop way to get your mitts on a bunch at once. i've resigned myself

to

quoted 1 line nth-generation mixtapes to hear all that stuff :(

> nth-generation mixtapes to hear all that stuff :(

This question is driving me nuts, I know there's a compilation that might be good, though it's not as ragga heavy... it was a Suburban Bass compilation, I wanna say it was a volume 3, and it wasn't the "Speed Limit" comps... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Look for some old Mickey Finn mixtapes, one of the best being the aptly titled "Ragga Jungle". He's got alot of classics, incredibly good and high energy all around. You'll do better with mixtapes than cd comps in terms of more underground track seletion and raw energy. DJ Jeffee from florida put out one of the better ragga tapes i've heard a couple years back, i know its available through pure acid mixtapes mail order. If you can only track down the cd comps, there's lots to choose from, about a dozen or so came out in the mid-90's. Some that you can probably still get: v/a - "Toasted" - Mutant sound system v/a - "Law of the Jungle - Moonshine Although if you check used cd shops and bins, there's alot of decent comps. I can get more specific if you're looking for particular stuff, but i don't have alot of time here, not to mention the off topic nature....:) -= cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Davison <yoshi@enteract.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 5:12 PM Subject: [idm] classic jungle

quoted 29 lines i guess i'm about five years late with this one

> i guess i'm about five years late with this one > > i have this compilation cd called "Junglist Massive" which contains about > the only Jungle i have ever heard that really gets me excited... it's much > more Dancehall/Ragga influenced than the post-Goldie Metalheadz garbage > that saturated the jungle bins from about 1996 on. But anyway, i know > that there has to be more stuff like the tracks on this comp. > > anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that > share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have > > if you don't like jungle, please don't bother telling me that... i know > it's stupid and the amen breakbeat is played out but goddammit i wanna > hear some! > > thanks! > josh > > -- > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 1 line v/a - "Law of the Jungle - Moonshine

> v/a - "Law of the Jungle - Moonshine

I almost suggested this one, but I figured I'd get laughed at. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Andrew Hime wrote:

quoted 4 lines v/a - "Law of the Jungle - Moonshine

> > v/a - "Law of the Jungle - Moonshine > > I almost suggested this one, but I figured I'd get laughed at. >

That's not the proper laugher. The proper laugher is "History of Our World Part One" mixed by DB which is a load of the pre-jungle 'ardcore tracks. One or two OK tracks and a lot that are as pleasant as chalk squeaking on a blackboard. Worth picking up used if you see it, though, just so you can actually hear "Mr. Kirk's Nightmare" by 4Hero -- one of those tracks that is famous but hard to find anymore. Though I think there was a '99 mix of that out on vinyl last year. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

the worst jungle comp i have ever purchased was "Wayz of the Dragon" which was so bad i couldn't even get the shop to buy it back because everybody else who bought it already returned it. -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Kent williams wrote:

quoted 22 lines On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Andrew Hime wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Andrew Hime wrote: > > > v/a - "Law of the Jungle - Moonshine > > > > I almost suggested this one, but I figured I'd get laughed at. > > > That's not the proper laugher. The proper laugher is "History of Our World > Part One" mixed by DB which is a load of the pre-jungle 'ardcore tracks. > One or two OK tracks and a lot that are as pleasant as chalk squeaking > on a blackboard. > > Worth picking up used if you see it, though, just so you can actually > hear "Mr. Kirk's Nightmare" by 4Hero -- one of those tracks that is famous > but hard to find anymore. Though I think there was a '99 mix of that > out on vinyl last year. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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"Jungle Warfare" V/A 2XCD....dunno bout the label but there's one of theee original jungle classics on there..."Lighter" by DJ SS...most excellent schtuff.... oh yeah...has anybody heard Metamatics new dish..."Spook Tinsel Shoal"??? i know how reviews aren't viewed as anything of importance but i must say this is one of the most engaging, moving(yes, my body moves to IDM), and sick2deaf albums iVe heard since the hyper-kinetic Cataract Beats...aaaaanywayz...iLL c ya'z on the flip kiddiez centripdLL np:Jurassic 5>improvise --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 11 lines anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that

> > > anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that > > > share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have > > > > i've been trying for years and it's very hard to find a nice compilation > > with that stuff on it. the "Junglist Massive" comp is probably the best > > one-stop way to get your mitts on a bunch at once. i've resigned myself to > > nth-generation mixtapes to hear all that stuff :( > > This question is driving me nuts, I know there's a compilation that might be > good, though it's not as ragga heavy... it was a Suburban Bass compilation, > I wanna say it was a volume 3, and it wasn't the "Speed Limit" comps...

Maybe "Drum & Bass Selection 5" which has the awesome DJ SS remix of Cutty Ranks' "Limb By Limb". There's some other good stuff on the comp, but nothing tops that track. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

hey, now we're talking...off the top of my head these were some of my top ragga-jungle tunes from back in the day. Marvelous Cain 'Hitman' : easily my fav ragga jungle track of all time..."Get Mash Up"! Bad Man Wagon 'Do You Love Reggae Music' (Robs Records) Greensleeves released some good Barrington Levy jungle tracks, 'Under Mi Sensei' in particular Mad Professor 'Ultimate Experience in Dub' 12" on Ariwa has some great jungle mixes Kemet Crew 'Champion Jungle Sound' Undercover Agent 'Oh Gosh' & Pascal 'P Funk Era' (minimum ragga content, but great repeating ragga samples) X Project w/Rebel MC (I think?) 'Code Red' (Mango) DRS & Kenny Ken 'Everyman' Various '1 In The Jungle' There's a tune on Rugged that I used to play all the time which had the sample "we have to travel over hill & valley, just to find the good senei"...anyone know who did this? Jeff

quoted 22 lines i guess i'm about five years late with this one

>i guess i'm about five years late with this one > >i have this compilation cd called "Junglist Massive" which contains about >the only Jungle i have ever heard that really gets me excited... it's much >more Dancehall/Ragga influenced than the post-Goldie Metalheadz garbage >that saturated the jungle bins from about 1996 on. But anyway, i know >that there has to be more stuff like the tracks on this comp. > >anyway i'm looking for recommendations for other pre 1996 jungle that >share the raw dirty energy that these tracks have > >if you don't like jungle, please don't bother telling me that... i know >it's stupid and the amen breakbeat is played out but goddammit i wanna >hear some! > >thanks! >josh > >-- >String Theory : Digital Music for Humans >http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi >

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quoted 2 lines While many have disagreed with me, I find the 'Jungle Tekno 5' CD from

> While many have disagreed with me, I find the 'Jungle Tekno 5' CD from > Jumpin & Pumpin to have several crucial tracks from that period. God

knows

quoted 1 line where you could ever find that (and what happened to volumes 1 thru 4?)

> where you could ever find that (and what happened to volumes 1 thru 4?)

I have volume 2, which has a few classics on it, such as valley of the shadows, the touch, terminator, but also a few dodgy tracks.

quoted 1 line And in my opinion, something really go lost in Drum & Bass when it got

> And in my opinion, something really go lost in Drum & Bass when it got

stripped

quoted 3 lines down to 2 step.

> down to 2 step. > If you're into the whole drill & bass thing, early jungle tracks are what > inspired it.

Yeah, if you think squarepusher invented madly chopped up breaks then you need to look at some early jungle. Some of that stuff is seriously fucked about with. Tommy did step it up another gear though, and added a lot more to the basic jungle ingredients. Eddie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

check the artcore series on react uk first volume in 1995 - link remix included the other volumes ( 4 total ) are all exceptional 3 and 4 pressed on vinyl with less tracks ( and im looking for these on cd if anyone has them to sell/trade) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org