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1995-01-27 06:24Henrik Andersson iDm?
2000-08-07 04:32dj seven [idm] idm?
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2000-08-07 04:54lazlo Re: [idm] idm?
2000-08-07 05:04dj seven Re: [idm] idm?
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2000-08-07 06:37steve Re: [idm] idm?
2000-08-07 12:28Kelley Hackett RE: [idm] idm?
2000-08-07 23:54Joanna Apps [idm] FW: [idm] idm?
2003-02-21 20:51Bell 03 [idm] idm?
2004-06-14 01:01theREALmxyzptlk [idm] IDM?
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1995-01-27 06:24Henrik AnderssonWhen I found this list, a question popped up in my head. I didn't think much of it, the an
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When I found this list, a question popped up in my head. I didn't think much of it, the answer would probably come to me later, I thought. It didn't. So I have to ask a rather lame question: Does people dance to Aphex, AUTECHRe and such? (referring to the label 'Intelligent DANCE music') Anyway, if anyone is interested in talking Aphex or WARP- style music in an unobsessive manner then email me... /Henrik
2000-08-07 04:32dj sevenhey... okay so i know what the idm sound sounds like... and i know that it should be more
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hey... okay so i know what the idm sound sounds like... and i know that it should be more of a concept than a sound.... but could anyone really define for me what idm artists or listeners consider really to be idm... i have dj'd for 4 years minimal techno/house, easy listening, experimental stuff up until electro and idm in the present... i now work for a music streamer called friskit... i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not to sure officially what the qualifications should be.... anybody? spread the music.... djseven. http://www.friskit.com/?m&258277&I-F& http://www.friskit.com/?m&686600&kraftwerk&a ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-07 14:40Kent williamsIDM isn't a genre. It's a mailing list. If I had to put a name to it, I'd say that "Electr
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IDM isn't a genre. It's a mailing list. If I had to put a name to it, I'd say that "Electronic Listening Music" fits better. The "Electronica" tag has been devalued because it's a marketing tag that the majors adopted. To my mind what is 'this-listy' comes down to any music that is at least in part electronic, that defines and works by it's own conventions, instead of the conventions of any fixed genre. Obvious namechecks for the form would include Aphex Twin, Autechre, Muziq, Black Dog, Plaid, Boards of Canada, Squarepusher, Global Communications. Between them there are about 45 CDs to track down, at least half of which are absolutely ace tracks. But if you really want to do a radio program that does justice to the music I think you have to branch out, because eclecticism is also an important feature of the genre. So playing the original Steve Reich and Philip Glass tracks just deepens the flavor. And you can't neglect the stuff that inspired the current artists -- stuff like My Bloody Valentine, Flying Saucer Attack, Seefeel and even Lush are touchstones of the form. Ambient stuff like Vainqueur and Fluxion (Chain Reaction) and Reinhard Voigt (Profan) are essential. And I go even further than that. Debussy's La Mer, piano works by Satie and Poulenc really mix in well. I don't know if Aphex Twin has even heard Satie, but they share a very similar strategy when it comes to using repetition and harmonic progression... And the concept of DJ mixing can be stretched a lot. Beatmatching is cool when it is possible, but since you can't expect everything to fit in a narrow tempo band, it's not a requirement. Again, bringing in the beatless stuff introduces a whole new dimension, since they can mix with anything. Some of the coolest mixes can come from layering stuff against all concept of congruent tempo. kent williams -- kent@avalon.net http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=chaircrusher -- mix --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-07 04:54lazlodj seven wrote: > i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not > to sure officially wha
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dj seven wrote:
quoted 3 lines i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not> i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not > to sure officially what the qualifications should be.... > anybody?
IF: Alex Reynolds can satirize it; and Ernie can comment on Alex's post; and Lancebot can provide the discography; and Pietro can post about it ten times in one day; and Dave Segal can put it on the Secret Ions playlist; and Kelly Hacket can still give it an "h-2-tha-mutha-fukin'-k!," then it's IDM. laz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-07 05:04dj sevendiscographys and secret societies and personal previews and reviews still dont help... i n
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discographys and secret societies and personal previews and reviews still dont help... i need some kind of something... beyond rants and raves...
quoted 17 lines IF:>IF: > >Alex Reynolds can satirize it; and >Ernie can comment on Alex's post; and >Lancebot can provide the discography; and >Pietro can post about it ten times in one day; and >Dave Segal can put it on the Secret Ions playlist; and >Kelly Hacket can still give it an "h-2-tha-mutha-fukin'-k!," >then it's IDM. > >laz > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-08-07 05:44dj sevenits for a music search and play streamer on the internet... & i live in san francisco at t
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its for a music search and play streamer on the internet... & i live in san francisco at the moment... click on one of the links to check it out and for now you can find cool idm stuff in the "robotica" mix. dj seven. http://www.friskit.com/?m&258277&I-F& http://www.friskit.com/?m&686600&kraftwerk&a
quoted 44 lines From: "steve " <saw123@ixpres.com>>From: "steve " <saw123@ixpres.com> >To: lazlo <muziq@ionet.net>, dj seven <thedjbar@hotmail.com> >CC: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] idm? >Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:37:30 -0800 > >qualifications? sub-genre? this is for a radio show? webcast? > >do you live in miami? > >steve > >---------- > >From: lazlo <muziq@ionet.net> > >To: dj seven <thedjbar@hotmail.com> > >Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] idm? > >Date: Sun, Aug 6, 2000, 8:54 PM > > > > > dj seven wrote: > > > >> i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not > >> to sure officially what the qualifications should be.... > >> anybody? > > > > IF: > > > > Alex Reynolds can satirize it; and > > Ernie can comment on Alex's post; and > > Lancebot can provide the discography; and > > Pietro can post about it ten times in one day; and > > Dave Segal can put it on the Secret Ions playlist; and > > Kelly Hacket can still give it an "h-2-tha-mutha-fukin'-k!," > > then it's IDM. > > > > laz > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >
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2000-08-07 06:37stevequalifications? sub-genre? this is for a radio show? webcast? do you live in miami? steve
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qualifications? sub-genre? this is for a radio show? webcast? do you live in miami? steve ----------
quoted 6 lines From: lazlo <muziq@ionet.net>>From: lazlo <muziq@ionet.net> >To: dj seven <thedjbar@hotmail.com> >Cc: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] idm? >Date: Sun, Aug 6, 2000, 8:54 PM >
quoted 24 lines dj seven wrote:> dj seven wrote: > >> i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not >> to sure officially what the qualifications should be.... >> anybody? > > IF: > > Alex Reynolds can satirize it; and > Ernie can comment on Alex's post; and > Lancebot can provide the discography; and > Pietro can post about it ten times in one day; and > Dave Segal can put it on the Secret Ions playlist; and > Kelly Hacket can still give it an "h-2-tha-mutha-fukin'-k!," > then it's IDM. > > laz > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-08-07 12:28Kelley HackettI'm really going to hate to leave u cats, but I'd would like to be known for having good t
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I'm really going to hate to leave u cats, but I'd would like to be known for having good tastes as opposed to being a troll... Musically tho-- Many of the cats in my crew have been asking about Tikiman. I am not surprised, based on how much I play it. Does anyone have a discography or URL for him np) Lackluster, "me, me, me, me, me" -----Original Message----- From: lazlo To: dj seven Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Sent: 8/6/00 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [idm] idm? dj seven wrote:
quoted 3 lines i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not> i want to implement an idm sub-genre but im not > to sure officially what the qualifications should be.... > anybody?
IF: Alex Reynolds can satirize it; and Ernie can comment on Alex's post; and Lancebot can provide the discography; and Pietro can post about it ten times in one day; and Dave Segal can put it on the Secret Ions playlist; and Kelly Hacket can still give it an "h-2-tha-mutha-fukin'-k!," then it's IDM. laz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-07 23:54Joanna AppsHello. me new person type thing. > And I go even further than that. Debussy's La Mer, pian
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Hello. me new person type thing.
quoted 4 lines And I go even further than that. Debussy's La Mer, piano works by> And I go even further than that. Debussy's La Mer, piano works by > Satie and Poulenc really mix in well. I don't know if Aphex Twin > has even heard Satie, but they share a very similar strategy when it > comes to using repetition and harmonic progression...
i'd say Satie was the most "plagerised" out of most French artistes. Especially the cheesy but good Gymnopedies and Gymnosiems (bad spelling I know...). However, there is such a wealth of Satie stuff out there, stuff like his pieces for children.. which feature a fucked up line of poetry running through the printed music.. which isn't to be read aloud, but to be read internally. He also drew all his manuscripts with illustrations and different colours, and worked with Picasso (the first ever audio-visual installation?) and lots of his music works on its own as an early hip-hop type backing, or fits seemlessly into most modern dance music patterns. He's also Sonic Youth's no. 1 hero, and mine. mmmm. (He was also.. alledgedly.. suffering from aspergers syndrome). Noice. One other person who's music fits with the whole IDM thang (but light years earlier).. is Bartok. lots of fucked up style aphex melodies there. (and used in Dr. Octagon..) I could also bring up St*ckhausen.. ;D A bit of a touchy (and pretentious) subject.. !
quoted 6 lines And the concept of DJ mixing can be stretched a lot. Beatmatching is> And the concept of DJ mixing can be stretched a lot. Beatmatching is > cool when it is possible, but since you can't expect everything to fit > in a narrow tempo band, it's not a requirement. Again, bringing in the > beatless stuff introduces a whole new dimension, since they can mix with > anything. Some of the coolest mixes can come from layering stuff against > all concept of congruent tempo.
I know it sounds wanky.. but I'm currently obsessed with mixing IDMy things with Steve Reich's music for 19 musicians. I'm lucky enough to have such an AMAZING piece of music on vinyl along with some Stockhausen and Boulez goodies... thanks to my ex-composition teacher getting rid of all her old vinyl. Stockhausen randomness goes lovely over some nasty DHR type thang, and I'm just waiting to find a piece which fits with Stravinsky's "dance of the Adolescents" from the Rite of Spring.. which is so hip-hop it hurts. God I sound wanky. -jo- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-21 20:51Bell 03"No, no, you're doing it the wrong way, you must hit them in the head so they fall down!"
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"No, no, you're doing it the wrong way, you must hit them in the head so they fall down!" vs_price - <calin>minette_ - expanding records - eva3:02 quench - punctuated - n5md - md112 frank and bill - ma0x - merck - merckfb spark | the robotic girl next door - n5md - md109 v/a - on 002 compilation - on records - on002ep vessel - dreaming in pairs - expanding records - eva2:02 www.electronicdesert.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-06-14 01:01theREALmxyzptlkWell, probably not. BUT - the recent re-recording/remixing of the first (previously unrele
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Well, probably not. BUT - the recent re-recording/remixing of the first (previously unreleased) Residents LP (WB RMX) is really lots of fun. Do I think that most of what they have done since, um, "The King and I" is pretty lame? Yes indeed. I say that as a staunch fan and collector of their material since the old "Santa Dog" 7" and "Meet the Residents" era stuff .This one, however, is really, really good. It's a really nice update to the first, unreleased LP (which WB rejected). It doesn't have that rough charm or as much flat out weirdness that the early stuff like Fingerprince or Duck Stab has (which makes it wonderful), but it also doesn't have the dumbed-down "shadow of their former selves" feeling that most of the more recent output manifests. The remixing *does* give this one a very modern, cogent "song" feel, but it has enough of the old creativeness mixed with the 21st century production to make it an unique and worthy (finally) addition to their catalogue. It's really an odd record; very polished, but still cool. It feels like *they* didn't do the remixing (which is most likely a complete overhaul/re-recording), but they probably did. Some of the arrangements they whip up which are juxtaposed against and layered on top of their playful cacophonies are just stellar. Or maybe it's just what I needed to hear at the moment. You decide. Dunno how it will hit someone who hasn't been an old school fan. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-06-14 01:27max0666on 6/13/04 8:01 PM, theREALmxyzptlk at theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net wrote: > the recent re-
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on 6/13/04 8:01 PM, theREALmxyzptlk at theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net wrote:
quoted 2 lines the recent re-recording/remixing of the first> the recent re-recording/remixing of the first > (previously unreleased) Residents LP (WB RMX) is really lots of fun......
quoted 1 line wow--thanks for the review on this one, i'd been wondering myself how it>>>wow--thanks for the review on this one, i'd been wondering myself how it
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quoted 2 lines guess i'll have to check it out now.>>>guess i'll have to check it out now. >>> =]
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