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2000-07-17 01:14Inputcodetrnsfus@aol.comIn a message dated 7/16/00 3:37:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cex@tigerbeat6.com writes: <<

From:: <Inputcodetrnsfus@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:14:09 EDT
Subject:: Re: [idm] american roll call

In a message dated 7/16/00 3:37:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cex@tigerbeat6.com writes: << i think the funniest part of this whole debate is that if Lexaunculpt met you he would most likely hate your guts. last time I was graced by Alex's awesome presence, he made it pretty clear that he finds tunnel-vision, pigeonholing, "IDM"-obsessed kids very distasteful. maybe he's changed since then, i dont know... but i'm just saying: it's quite ironic, y'know? >> "tunnel vision", it is not bias or narrow to say that Kid 606 sucks. I am open to every type of music: hip-hop, tuntable shit, idm, dnb, dub, minimalist, reggae, jazz, and classical. all of those have good and bad music within them. I can give my opinion that someone's music sucks without being called an "IDM-obsessed kid" who pigeonholes. Damn, try and have a critical discussion about upon the subject of this list, and get PIGEONHOLED (ironic) from you peace, Noraul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-07-17 20:51anything@synthesizer.org><< i think the funniest part of this whole debate is that if Lexaunculpt met > you he wou

From:: <anything@synthesizer.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:51:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: [idm] Pigeonholing
Reply to:: Re: [idm] american roll call

quoted 14 lines << i think the funniest part of this whole debate is that if Lexaunculpt met

><< i think the funniest part of this whole debate is that if Lexaunculpt met > you he would most likely hate your guts. last time I was graced by Alex's > awesome presence, he made it pretty clear that he finds tunnel-vision, > pigeonholing, "IDM"-obsessed kids very distasteful. maybe he's changed since > then, i dont know... but i'm just saying: it's quite ironic, y'know? >> > > >"tunnel vision", it is not bias or narrow to say that Kid 606 sucks. I am >open to every type of music: hip-hop, tuntable shit, idm, dnb, dub, >minimalist, reggae, jazz, and classical. all of those have good and bad music >within them. I can give my opinion that someone's music sucks without being >called an "IDM-obsessed kid" who pigeonholes. Damn, try and have a critical >discussion about upon the subject of this list, and get PIGEONHOLED (ironic) >from you

Not only that, but for any artist to whine about fans' predilection for what I assume is differentiation and criticism (pigeonholing) seems to be sour grapes. Obsessed kids of any kind are easy to mock (see "High Fidelity" for close examples), but the only thing that an artist can do about it is to make pieces which defy the obsession and exist outside of any previously-magnified niche. I wonder if some people are consciously doing something like "a clever take on the crunch-and-twinkle" genre and then getting mad that they're being lumped with the rest. The end result is that a bunch of stuff comes out that sounds similar enough to be the same. -- http://www.synthesizer.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

[idm] Pigeonholing