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2000-06-30 18:00atomhi, (sorry if this appears twice, I may have posted to the wrong address) IDM is a descrip

From:: atom <kadrock@pipeline.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:00:25 -0400
Subject:: [idm] idm - describing your music

hi, (sorry if this appears twice, I may have posted to the wrong address) IDM is a description not a genre. :) It's more about what it's not than what it is. That leaves a lot of options. Genres are silly at this point but they make conversations about music shorter. You have to call it something... if I say, "it's electronic, you can dance to it but it's not just a four-beat, there are ambient sounds and noises but also melodies, we use vocoding a lot on the tracks with vocals, there are some drum and bass beats but also some slower beats..." this is only for people who know what I'm talking about already, you know? note **please visit http://www.melange.org if you'd like to see melange tonight (friday 6/30/00) and you can make it to New York City. Atom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-07-01 07:47atomhi, yeah, maybe you're right... I was being literal and kind of just joking, and mainly hu

From:: atom <kadrock@pipeline.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>, BABYDIDDY@LINEONE <BABYDIDDY@LINEONE.NET>
Date:: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:47:48 +0800
Subject:: [idm] Re: idm - describing your music

hi, yeah, maybe you're right... I was being literal and kind of just joking, and mainly humorously responding to another message. In reality, as I said, a genre is just a simple way to explain what your music sounds like to other people, so I don't mind when people call my music IDM, because I would prefer to be associated with the sound of Autechre and Aphex Twin etc., although I think probably they all sound a bit different, just not to the layman. I haven't listened to all the artists you mentioned, so can't agree or dispute (though I know Mira Calix sounds a lot like Autechre) so I would say yes, there are some that have THAT "sound" and some are different, but are they still IDM? does it matter? It is good in another respect in that artsits in this "genre" may have some kind of community. But in my experience if you ask many musicians what their genre is, they'll probably not want to answer with one word, or have an answer at all. cheers Atom

quoted 13 lines IDM is a description not a genre. :) <<

> >>IDM is a description not a genre. :) << > >I would dispute this. There definitely has arisen a genre called "IDM" >which sounds as distinctive as drum and bass records sound like drum and >bass, like acid house records sound like acid house, like bhangramuffin >records sound like bhangramuffin, and I'm sure this list is at least >partially responsible for creating it. It doesn't necessarily mean there >isn't dance music that is intelligent, its just by focussing on acts like >Autechre, Push Button Objects, Funkstorung, Freeform, Mira Calix, Boards of >Canada and what have you things have sort of crystallized together into a >distinctive sound. > >BABY DIDDY

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2000-07-02 17:08Jacob ArnoldI suppose I should weigh in on this since I wrote the IDM Ring introduction that's spawned

From:: Jacob Arnold <jacob@cnsp.com>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 11:08:35 -0600
Subject:: [idm] Re: idm - describing your music

I suppose I should weigh in on this since I wrote the IDM Ring introduction that's spawned so much debate. I'd definitely agree with the theory that IDM's a community. All the artists we discuss play off one another. Autechre names Mantronix, Stockhausen, and George Clinton as influences, so they're on-topic. Autechre, Squarepusher, and Luke Vibert remix DJ Food, bringing Ninja Tune into the fold. Coldcut mixes Plastikman with James Brown, Autechre adds a Chic sample to their Basscadet remix, the list goes on and on... I wouldn't try to put all these artists in the same genre, though. They all have very diverse sounds. If anything, they're just connected by some sort of post-modern funky vibe. That's what makes this list so cool. Jacob At 12:36 AM +0000 7/2/00, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote:

quoted 26 lines Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:47:48 +0800

>Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:47:48 +0800 >To: idm@hyperreal.org, "BABYDIDDY@LINEONE" <BABYDIDDY@LINEONE.NET> >From: atom <kadrock@pipeline.com> >Subject: Re: idm - describing your music >Message-Id: <a04310101b5834f5fd8a5@[165.247.42.199]> > >hi, > >yeah, maybe you're right... I was being literal and kind of just >joking, and mainly humorously responding to another message. In >reality, as I said, a genre is just a simple way to explain what your >music sounds like to other people, so I don't mind when people call >my music IDM, because I would prefer to be associated with the sound >of Autechre and Aphex Twin etc., although I think probably they all >sound a bit different, just not to the layman. I haven't listened to >all the artists you mentioned, so can't agree or dispute (though I >know Mira Calix sounds a lot like Autechre) so I would say yes, >there are some that have THAT "sound" and some are different, but are >they still IDM? does it matter? >It is good in another respect in that artsits in this "genre" may >have some kind of community. But in my experience if you ask many >musicians what their genre is, they'll probably not want to answer >with one word, or have an answer at all. > >cheers >Atom

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