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[idm] Hip Hop + IDM

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2000-05-24 18:52Scott McKeating [idm] Hip Hop + IDM
2000-05-24 23:00Dave Segal Re: [idm] Hip Hop + IDM
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2000-05-24 18:52Scott McKeatingNot aimed at anyone! I see there's a lot of comedy banter on how formulaic hip-hop/rap/RnB
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[idm] Hip Hop + IDM
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Not aimed at anyone! I see there's a lot of comedy banter on how formulaic hip-hop/rap/RnB is, you know if you only dig 2 feet deep you aren't going to find anything useful. It's as diverse as you can be bothered to look for. Hip hop is a genre like "electronica" which doesn't appear to have any set rules. I know hip hop is considered to be vocals/samples/beats but a lot of it doesn't conform to this. Eg as far as i know the "turntablism" movement is as big a part of hip hop as the leftfield antics of the Anti pop consortium CD, much maligned Puff Daddy, breaking and graffiti. So its a big field to play in, you could even suggest that it's more diverse than IDm, as it's concerned with (mainly) audio only. Cue avalance of disagreement and laughter at my naivity. I would class some of Killah priest's "Heavy Mental" as IDM, not as in the bleepyambientthing but as in dancable music breaking newish ground sonically and lyrically. And like the Roots may hark back to an underground gone by, it's still breaking barriers for the genre. Just like some of the new IDM stuff probably harks back to styles gone before. The question could be asked has the IDM movement ever shifted that far forward at all. C'mon, let me have it. Scott ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-24 23:00Dave SegalFor hip hop that's expanding boundaries and minds, check Live Human's _Monostereosis_ on F
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For hip hop that's expanding boundaries and minds, check Live Human's _Monostereosis_ on FatCat (just reissued in the US on Hip Hop Slam) and their forthcoming album on Matador, _Elefish Jellyphant_. They combine turntablism with live bass, drums, cello, jaw harp and other unconventional instruments to create a mutant strain on this genre. El Stew are also working with a similar m.o. to slightly less interesting effect. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST [www.wcsb.org] ----------
quoted 29 lines From: "Scott McKeating" <mckeating23@hotmail.com>>From: "Scott McKeating" <mckeating23@hotmail.com> > >Not aimed at anyone! > >I see there's a lot of comedy banter on how formulaic hip-hop/rap/RnB is, >you know if you only dig 2 feet deep you aren't going to find anything >useful. It's as diverse as you can be bothered to look for. > >Hip hop is a genre like "electronica" which doesn't appear to have any set >rules. I know hip hop is considered to be vocals/samples/beats but a lot of >it doesn't conform to this. Eg as far as i know the "turntablism" movement >is as big a part of hip hop as the leftfield antics of the Anti pop >consortium CD, much maligned Puff Daddy, breaking and graffiti. So its a big >field to play in, you could even suggest that it's more diverse than IDm, as >it's concerned with (mainly) audio only. Cue avalance of disagreement and >laughter at my naivity. > >I would class some of Killah priest's "Heavy Mental" as IDM, not as in the >bleepyambientthing but as in dancable music breaking newish ground sonically >and lyrically. > >And like the Roots may hark back to an underground gone by, it's still >breaking barriers for the genre. Just like some of the new IDM stuff >probably harks back to styles gone before. The question could be asked has >the IDM movement ever shifted that far forward at all. > >C'mon, let me have it. > >Scott
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