Well, i had hoped that since most arguments of this type on the IDM list
degenerate into name-calling and petty bickering, i might get to use some of
my choicer insulting epithets. But if you do insist on responding with
well-thought out replies... :)
quoted 3 lines Because:
>Because:
>
> -- the white vinyl is stamped with a black label
I agree this was, as i siad previously, *at the very least* bad judgement.
Thus i cannot answer; personally i would be interested to hear VVMs
justification. I believe they're on the list, or at least have access to
it....
quoted 1 line -- the label notes read like some kid auditioning to be a VJ
> -- the label notes read like some kid auditioning to be a VJ
Well forgive my pre-conceptions, but i was under the impression that this
was just Kid 606s way. Maybe it was meant to be satire, but i didnt even
consider it until i read your post. Not everyone expresses themsleves in the
same way.
quoted 2 lines -- the music itself seems pretty tame, in comparison with the >original
> -- the music itself seems pretty tame, in comparison with the >original
>(and that's a statement of a kind in its own right)
Well sure, if you dont like it. But i do think, although nothing close to
the originals raw power, that this is his attempt to capture some of it. It
is "angry-sounding", for want of a better metaphor. For me, its sufficient
to indicate his reverence.
quoted 4 lines Feel free to read my reviews in Grooves and on the list archives if >you're
>Feel free to read my reviews in Grooves and on the list archives if >you're
>truly interested in what I write when I do like something. If >anything, I
>could be accused of over-analyzing everything, good or bad. And I >tend to
>give more thumbs up than down.
I'm well aware of your reviews, articles etc., and in the main enjoy them,
if not always agreeing. But my point still remains; would you even have
*considered* the possibility that this record was something other than
tribute if you had actually liked it? Thats not a critique of you reviewing
style, merely a genuinely puzzled question.
quoted 3 lines Yes, I think it is a highly relevant issue in this era of well-paid,
>Yes, I think it is a highly relevant issue in this era of well-paid,
>multi-platinum, hyphenated, guitar-rap acts. If this NWA remix is a
>satirical work, my hat goes off to Mr. Depedro.
Well, i would agree if this were the first few bars of "Straight Outta.."
looped with "Mr. Depedro" copying the lyrics over the top, on a major label
with lots of publicity. Then it would be much easier to assume a cynical
stance. But i think that as this is a limited run record on an obscure
label, on 7" vinyl, that the release is really just a fan thing; out of
love, not manipulation. I hardly see it, or any other similar release for
that matter, soundtracking the next Gap ad.
quoted 4 lines It's ironic that an independent like V/VM inspires this kind of >worship.
>It's ironic that an independent like V/VM inspires this kind of >worship.
>Didn't they promise to burn a bunch of IDM rareties awhile back in a >blaze
>of righteous fire? I just dislike hypocrisy. More importantly, I do >not
>respect the musical content of their stuff.
Once again, i offer no kind of worship. I like a good record.
(And i apologise for being childishly pedantic, but it was Diskono who were
going to burn the rarities). If you dont like it, then fine. But simply
saying "i dont like it" should be enough without having to create laborious
justifications.
quoted 6 lines I did not decide to buy (or decide not to buy) Kid606's "Straight >Outta
>I did not decide to buy (or decide not to buy) Kid606's "Straight >Outta
>Compton" based on whether it was on V/VM. In fact, I didn't know it >was
>published through V/VM until I had it in my hands and looked at it. I
>bought it because it was an NWA remix project that sounded like a >good
>idea
>on paper.
My point was that the strength of your critiscism was perhaps based on the
apparent "hype" surrounding the label.
quoted 3 lines Just because they paid tDR to do some cover art doesn't make them >Warp
>Just because they paid tDR to do some cover art doesn't make them >Warp
>copycats. Yes, they owe a debt to their forerunners across the pond. >But
>they have their own voice.
I didnt say they were Warp copycats. I've listened to all their releases
since the first PBO 12" and, that release aside, have disliked most of them
as i fell they, like the less imaginative MAS releases, owe more than a debt
to Autechre.
quoted 6 lines I'll agree that there is a much wider range of artists putting out >good
>I'll agree that there is a much wider range of artists putting out >good
>releases, and Schematic's artists are only a few among the bunch.>
> >"Lily.."
>was a real treat, certainly. I was really impressed with Phoenicia,
>Delarosa+Asora, and 09's tracks, which sounded nothing like Autechre >of
>any era.
As it happens the 09 and R Devine tracks on "Lily.." were much more to my
taste than usual. I just loathed the other tracks with a passion.
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