At 12:21 PM -0400 5/11/00, Rjyan Kidwell wrote:
quoted 8 lines cheers to you guys, ruairdh, alex.... this is a great conversation.
>cheers to you guys, ruairdh, alex.... this is a great conversation.
>...
>now, i'm sorry to throw another post into the fray on this but...
>my particular problem with this whole "Ae clone" business is that almost
>everyone levels this criticism inconsistently. as you said, alex, they "owe
>more than a debt to Autechre," but they don't get the dreaded label of
>"Autechre clones." a lot of people on this list seem to agree with you, i
>think. which sort of puzzles me...
I'm not sure I said what you attributed to me; I think that was ruaridh. In
any case, I don't think Schematic owes a debt to Autechre specifically,
although Ae certainly counts as a major influence.
I think Schematic artists, and all current North American electronic
musicians for that matter, owe a great deal to the pioneering work done by
the whole lot of UK artists that had their turn in Warp/Skam/Clear/Ninja
Tune's history. In turn, those fellows owe a lot to the Eno, Kraftwerk,
Stockhausen, and Krautrock era of the 60s and 70s. This has been said
before. Art is an interpretive, evolving organic process, and this is no
different.
So these guys all put electronic sound on the map for the benefit of the
American audience, but I wouldn't say that Aphex is a blatant carbon copy
of Eno, any more than I would say Devine is a xerox of Ae. I mean, that's
silly.
I can't and won't comment on Funkstoerung as I only have a couple of their
releases and I can't say I'm too impressed. To prevent a "why are you
baggin' on my deutschboys" flame war from starting, I'll just leave it at
that.
quoted 3 lines DON'T sound like "Autechre clones." that makes the whole thing suspect to
>DON'T sound like "Autechre clones." that makes the whole thing suspect to
>begin with, for me. it seems like the giveaway way to build up
>yourself/someone else on the list nowadays...
I'll reiterate my former proposal to the list, a little more seriously now:
Take a day off the IDM list for reflective meditation. You guys are lucky
enough to be born in a time period when you have enough money and enough
sense to appreciate this music for what it is. Relax and enjoy.
I think I'll start a rock band -- I'll call it, "The Autechre Clones". I
can almost see the ladies in the front row sigh in unison as I pull off yet
another fractal-based air guitar solo, all while grimacing melodically in a
7/8 time signature.
quoted 3 lines seem kind of pathetic. Boards were brought up recently, but quickly
>seem kind of pathetic. Boards were brought up recently, but quickly
>dispelled. Boards are too respected, so their debt/similarity/whatever to Ae
>is irrelevant, apparently.
Hey, wow, hold on just a second. How do Boards sound like Autechre? This is
all shocking news to me. Their "hiscores" album came out around the same
time as Gescom's "Key Nell" EP -- both were groundbreaking and totally
dissimilar. (?)
Yrs,
Alex
Alex Reynolds
SAS Computing / Biology
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6228
V +1 215 573.2818 / F +1 215 898.8780
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~reynolda/
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