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I disagree, Stimmung is gorgeous! But, I agree, Xenakis is amazing! Also pick up some Gyori Lygetti! Look for "Lux Eterna" That piece is soooooo intense! :)

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> -----Original Message----- > From: leg to the arm yeah leg-arm to the head :: :: > [SMTP:awesoma_powa@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 2:00 PM > To: bgause@us.oracle.com > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: (idm) stockhausen (straight, no walkman) > > > >Okay, so it's not strictly IDM, but can anyone make any good stockhausen > >recommendations? I'm looking for some of his earlier stuff, I > >suppose...some of the greats list him has an influence and I want to see > >what it's all about... > > hey, it's more I than most IDM, although definitely less D. > > first, if you have record player (and you better), look for his early > stuff > used on vinyl. while copies of _hymnen_ may be few and far between, i've > seen _gesang der junglinge_, _telemusik/mixtur_ and _kontake_ in the 5 to > 6 > dollar range used. which is better than buying from the ridiculously > expensive stockhausen verlag - what is it, $120 for _hymnen_? christ! > > my personal recommendation would be to check out _telemusik/mixtur_. > _telemusik_ does the early-electronic-bleep-crash-bloop thing pretty well, > > but with a nice continuity to it. _kontakte_ is good, but discontinous > and > a bit annoying. and _stimmung_ is an ordeal, if you ask me. > > if you REALLY want to delve into early electronic/concrete music, dig up > the > iannis xenakis _electronic music_ (aka _electro-acoustic music_) release - > > just amazing stuff, much more developed and interesting than stockhausen, > IMO. > > i also heartily recommend tod dockstader ("water music" is almost > sahko-like), rune lindblad, any of the compilations on Boit A Musique, and > a > couple of the Turnabout _Electronic Music_ compilations (I featuring > mimaroglu, walter carlos, and an amazing thing by tzvi avni; III featuring > > cage, mimaroglu, and berio's "visage"). and then there's intersystems. > but > they're just weird. > > and if you see parmegiani's _creation du monde_ (is it?), it's worth it. > amazingly prescient for it's time (early 80s? i think?). > > wow. this turned into a dissertation. sorry. > [gr] > -- > radio: [ http://listen.to/treblequake ] > reviews: [ http://www.homestead.com/spleens/ ] > > (in a thick brogue) "don't forget the chaos." > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

quoted 4 lines Okay, so it's not strictly IDM, but can anyone make any good stockhausen

>Okay, so it's not strictly IDM, but can anyone make any good stockhausen >recommendations? I'm looking for some of his earlier stuff, I >suppose...some of the greats list him has an influence and I want to see >what it's all about...

hey, it's more I than most IDM, although definitely less D. first, if you have record player (and you better), look for his early stuff used on vinyl. while copies of _hymnen_ may be few and far between, i've seen _gesang der junglinge_, _telemusik/mixtur_ and _kontake_ in the 5 to 6 dollar range used. which is better than buying from the ridiculously expensive stockhausen verlag - what is it, $120 for _hymnen_? christ! my personal recommendation would be to check out _telemusik/mixtur_. _telemusik_ does the early-electronic-bleep-crash-bloop thing pretty well, but with a nice continuity to it. _kontakte_ is good, but discontinous and a bit annoying. and _stimmung_ is an ordeal, if you ask me. if you REALLY want to delve into early electronic/concrete music, dig up the iannis xenakis _electronic music_ (aka _electro-acoustic music_) release - just amazing stuff, much more developed and interesting than stockhausen, IMO. i also heartily recommend tod dockstader ("water music" is almost sahko-like), rune lindblad, any of the compilations on Boit A Musique, and a couple of the Turnabout _Electronic Music_ compilations (I featuring mimaroglu, walter carlos, and an amazing thing by tzvi avni; III featuring cage, mimaroglu, and berio's "visage"). and then there's intersystems. but they're just weird. and if you see parmegiani's _creation du monde_ (is it?), it's worth it. amazingly prescient for it's time (early 80s? i think?). wow. this turned into a dissertation. sorry. [gr] -- radio: [ http://listen.to/treblequake ] reviews: [ http://www.homestead.com/spleens/ ] (in a thick brogue) "don't forget the chaos." _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, leg to the arm yeah leg-arm to the head :: :: wrote:

quoted 4 lines if you REALLY want to delve into early electronic/concrete music, dig up the

> if you REALLY want to delve into early electronic/concrete music, dig up the > iannis xenakis _electronic music_ (aka _electro-acoustic music_) release - > just amazing stuff, much more developed and interesting than stockhausen, > IMO.

Along similar lines, and more impressive IMO, is Xenakis' "La Legende d'Eer" (Montaigne, Fr.) This piece from the late 70s comes years later than most of what's on the disc above. Highly mathematical, and horrific. Think somewhere between, say, Ryoji Ikeda and Merzbow. Anyone got the "Kraanerg" CD on Asphodel? --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 < http://www.burningrome.com/ > < more high-quality MP3s coming soon >