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2000-04-04 18:08Re: [idm] drowning in monkey business someone help
2000-04-05 08:55Knapman, James [idm] drowning in monkey business someone help
2000-04-05 22:10Andrew Schrock [idm] Re: drowning in monkey business someone help
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2000-04-04 18:08NERVECANDY@aol.comhey, im getting all these mails with some stuff about plaid and how they sold out and all
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hey, im getting all these mails with some stuff about plaid and how they sold out and all kindsa other stuff like remixing manson n stuff....someone please leave an intelligent post on what the hell is going on...just a simple answer would be nice....thanks tangible --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-04-05 08:55Knapman, James>hey, im getting all these mails with some stuff about plaid and how they sold out and all
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quoted 1 line hey, im getting all these mails with some stuff about plaid and how they>hey, im getting all these mails with some stuff about plaid and how they
sold out and all kindsa other stuff like remixing manson n stuff....someone please leave an intelligent post on what the >Hell is going on...just a simple answer would be nice....thanks
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It's all rather interesting and quite sad. It seems that Warp are planning to release a 3 CD, 4 x LP compilation of early Plaid material that was only available on what are now extremely difficult to get hold of EP's and LP's or never officially released. None of the tracks being re-issued were co-written, according to Ed and Andy, with Ken Downie. However, it seems that for some laughable reason, Ken has a real problem with this material seeing the light of day on what he claims is a "cash-in" album and that releasing it on a compilation is presenting it out of context. I don't know about everyone else but I don't have the time or money to wander aimlessly about for the next god-knows-how-many years looking for all these rare EP's or the Mbuki Mvuki album and then having to pay some collector hundreds of pounds for the privilege. That is NOT what music is about. If Ken is so convinced that all of these tracks should be freely available to all then why hasn't he already released the MP3's he is threatening to place on the web if the compilation release goes through? I have to admit that I wasn't aware that much of this material was already available as free MP3 files, but frankly I'm not that interested. I can only listen to MP3 files at work, and I'd rather have a CD to play on my far higher quality hi-fi setup. I welcome the release of the compilation and don't view it as a "cash in" nor would I really care if it is, frankly. I have neither heard nor own much of this material and this album provides me and everyone else who came a little later to The Black Dog and Plaid's work the chance to hear how Plaid's music began and evolved, as well as access to material that was never even released. It's a little sad to see that all Ken seems to be able to resort to as a result of Plaid's recent posting is rather immature and unpleasant personal insults and references to their previous friendship. Let's hear no more about it. This is not the place for slagging matches. James A.D. Knapman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-04-05 22:10Andrew SchrockJust so that this is clear: One of Ken's complaints was that the Plaid boys didn't get cle
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Just so that this is clear: One of Ken's complaints was that the Plaid boys didn't get clearance yet from the labels they did the work under. Depending on what the prior written agreement between the artists and the label is, they may or may not have free reign over who publishes their previously released tracks. If you make a track and put it out on label X, then you hit it big and suddenly it's a jingle for a Toyota commercial, the label which put your music out will most likely want a cut. (since they did the legwork and publicity for your now-famous release) So bottom line is, unless we know for sure what Plaid's agreements with their labels were, and if they've gotten clearance recently, we don't know if they're doing anything illicit or not. Andrew -- -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org