My point to the relevancy of Jimi Tenor discussion on IDM list
is this:
I guess as long as Jimi Tenor releases his stuff on Warp
Records, I think there is some connection with this list.
And what do you think about Red Snapper - should we ban
the discussion on them too? Hardly purist IDM as some people
would like to limit the discussion on here. And I think as
long as Gentle People are on Rephlex, someone may discuss
them in the context of this list. What about AFX and Mu-ziq's
lounge obsessions then? (I just got "Urmur Bile Trax Vol. 1" and
it was funny to spot those Kingsley & Perrey samples on
'Saabtone M5'.) As long as IDM stays as a "Warphlex" list, we
have to accept the fact that the labels themselves may want to
move on, and I'm glad Warp and Rephlex have been daring enough
to widen their scopes though this seems hardly be the case with
everyone here. Folks, there is not such thing as "pure" IDM
anymore (if there ever was); it has been perverted and already
gone beyond recognition by such things as drum & bass, hip hop,
electro, trip hop, lounge, jazz and whatever. And I'm glad this
is so.
It should be mentioned that Jimi Tenor himself hates the moniker
'lounge'. If you want one indication that he is able to go beyond
that genre (if he has ever been really part of that one at all),
just listen the last track, 'Atlantis', on "Intervision". He has
mentioned this may be the direction he will go towards next.
I understand for most people on this list Jimi Tenor must be
some happy-go-lucky wannabe newcomer, but here in Finland
we've followed his career over a decade now ever since he started
with his industrial band The Shamans (The Industrialists
With A Clue (TM) posse of this list may want to get those JT
& His Shamans albums in their hands), eventually got fed up with
banging his head to the wall and turned to something different
altogether - and this was in the early 90s before easy listening
had become the trendy genre as it is now. Jimi has proved himself
to be an innovative musician and artist who doesn't exactly follow
where everyone else is going to, and continues to do so. If you don't
like his music and person, fair enough; all I I want promote here
is open-mindedness. And all that talk about "authenticity" and
originality and saying Jimi's got nothing new in his music is
just hair-splitting: every artist is influenced by someone else.
In the age of sampling this question will only become even more
absurd, and in defense of Mr. Tenor it can even be said that all
his sounds are created by himself, and not stolen from someone
else's records - if that wouldn't sound like the arguments of
those techno-bashing, "playing music with real instruments",
rock'n'roll people... Maybe we should start a new thread about
authenticity and originality in IDM - I guess that would be more
fruitful than constant slagging and flame wars.
np: Tony Drake - Texture (this is an amazing album, how come I
dind't discover this one before.)
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