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1996-12-15 21:34Mark Stevens Re: (idm) Amp, FSOL
└─ 1996-12-15 23:15Zenon M. Feszczak Re: (idm) Amp, FSOL
└─ 1996-12-16 21:31Gracchus Re: (idm) Amp, FSOL
1996-12-16 21:52FreyGuy (idm) Re: M2
1996-12-16 23:43Dale Rosenthal (idm) Re: M2
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1996-12-15 21:34Mark StevensOn 14 Dec 96 at 12:44, Rajesh Bhatt wrote: > Anyone know where the sample in "My Kingdom"
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On 14 Dec 96 at 12:44, Rajesh Bhatt wrote:
quoted 2 lines Anyone know where the sample in "My Kingdom" is from?> Anyone know where the sample in "My Kingdom" is from? > I thought it was cool - it reminded me of the Bladerunner
The sample credits should be listed on the CD's inlay. That female vocal comes from the track 'Rachel's Song' on Vangelis' 'Blade Runner' soundtrack album. I recently bought the BR soundtrack after putting it off for a year or so. I thought I'd heard everything there was to hear in the movie itself, but that wasn't to be! The album features lots of new material that never appeared in the movie. Whilst listening to it, I couldn't help but think just how FSOL-ish the whole album sounded.
quoted 2 lines I was hoping they'd show some Aphex/Autechre. I'll keep hoping. So> I was hoping they'd show some Aphex/Autechre. I'll keep hoping. So > great to see cool stuff on MTV.
Sigh. Now I'm getting jealous. You've no idea what it's like living in the UK, having to put up with MTV Europe's total non-understanding of IDM. They seem to think it starts and stops with Robert Miles. Ah well, let's hope they import AMP. I mean, if they can import 'Singled Out', 'The Real World' and 'Beavis & Butthead', surely they can import a bloody music show! Or is that too much to ask? .+'''+. mark@sonance.demon.co.uk M A R K http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/sonance/ `+.,.+' http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/
1996-12-15 23:15Zenon M. FeszczakAlso sprach mark@sonance.demon.co.uk: > >Ah well, let's hope they import AMP. I mean, if t
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Also sprach mark@sonance.demon.co.uk:
quoted 5 lines Ah well, let's hope they import AMP. I mean, if they can import> >Ah well, let's hope they import AMP. I mean, if they can import >'Singled Out', 'The Real World' and 'Beavis & Butthead', surely they >can import a bloody music show! Or is that too much to ask? >
Not at all. Those shows should all be line up and shot. Consider it euthanasia. BEWARE OF APPARENTLY AMICABLE ACTUALLY ACRIMONIOUS ACRONYMS! MTV has about as much to do with "Music" anymore as GQ has to do with "Gentlemen". "AMP" is a welcome exception, and may just justify the monthly cable bill. 3
1996-12-16 21:31GracchusI was just wondering if anyone has seen anything from the new all music MTV network "M2"?
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I was just wondering if anyone has seen anything from the new all music MTV network "M2"? The regular network was showing previews of it from time to time last week and although I haven't seen any honest to goodness IDM yet, they did show a video from "Nearly God" and an old Moby video. ************************************************************************* *"Women and wine and baths bring life's decline. Yet, what is life * *but women, baths, and wine"- A Roman epitaph * * Alexandre Dupin email:be81751@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu * *************************************************************************
1996-12-16 21:52FreyGuyGracchus wrote: > > I was just wondering if anyone has seen anything from the new all musi
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Gracchus wrote:
quoted 5 lines I was just wondering if anyone has seen anything from the new all music> > I was just wondering if anyone has seen anything from the new all music > MTV network "M2"? The regular network was showing previews of it from time > to time last week and although I haven't seen any honest to goodness IDM > yet, they did show a video from "Nearly God" and an old Moby video.
Well, I posted to IDM about this new network about 4 months ago when I first saw an interview in one of those coffee shoppe magazines w/the CEO of MTV Networks. She stated in that interview (in a rather condescending, but true, way) that they were launching this new M2 network to cater (and try to make money from their currently disenfranchised) to people that knew what they liked, knew "what was cool". She then stated the MTV itself would be going through some more revamping (read: more non-music shows introduced ie Dennis Rodmann) and is to cater to (and make money from who currently eat MTV up in its current state) the people that "need to be told what is cool, how to live." It would seem that now they are in full swing in the starting stages of pushing this network to become a part of expanded cable packages. I, too, have only been exposed to the content of this new network via the previews after AMP2 recently and liked what I saw (as contrasted w/the current MTV); granted though, its no IDM showcase.. but that's not its purpose. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this network will show more "fringe" type of music since its supposed to be for those of us who already "know what is cool" and I assume that means no Hootie. Kev (now bewildered and turned off by the TV medium) np: Gescom - Sounds of machines our parents used ---- FreyGuy <Everyday is FreyDay> LAN Administrator Hansen Corporation / A Minebea Group Company KevFrey@evansville.net --------- Kfrey@nyx.net WebSite: http://www.evansville.net/~kevfrey/ "Happiness is not a reward - it is a consequence. Suffering is not a punishment - it is a result." - Robert Green Ingersoll
1996-12-16 23:43Dale Rosenthal> kevfrey@evansville.net wrote: > [deletia] > > I, too, have only been exposed to the cont
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quoted 2 lines kevfrey@evansville.net wrote:> kevfrey@evansville.net wrote: >
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quoted 7 lines I, too, have only been exposed to the content of this new network via> > I, too, have only been exposed to the content of this new network via > the previews after AMP2 recently and liked what I saw (as contrasted > w/the current MTV); granted though, its no IDM showcase.. but that's not > its purpose. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this network will show > more "fringe" type of music since its supposed to be for those of us who > already "know what is cool" and I assume that means no Hootie.
Kev -- I'd have to agree with ya on 2 accounts. AMP is better than watching Hootie's "Fairweather Johnson" ;) and it isn't supposed to be exactly what this list follows. Why not? Well, the stat that brings it all home was in the NY Times two weeks ago. (The story didn't mention IDM or anything close.) Basically, for the "center-stage" recording industry, sales have been growing 12-20% each year for the past decade. This has been consistent and the companies seem to have expected this would continue. The year-to- date results for 1996 vs. 1995? Flat. Couple this with the fact that MTV has been having to push their marketing harder and harder to make the same bucks in the past year- and-a-half (I think this was in Barrons or BusinessWeek about 6 months ago.) and where do they turn? Beavis? Butthead? The Real World? Nope. Sales on their show-related products have been falling. "Alterna-Music"? That doesn't seem to be cutting it either. I say heads are gonna roll. (Oh please please please please!) The article may have exagerrated; but, the basics are undeniable: The record company dorks finally realised that something is wrong. So some MTV exec "lets it slip" that AMP is for the "already cool"? I'm _sure_ that wasn't meant to ever be circulated word-of-mouth. Just as I'm sure that MTV isn't ALWAYS working its marketing machine. (Yeah, right.) Fuck MTV and all their Singled Out, Real World, Alternative Nation ilk. MTV is getting reamed for believing that they could shape the music world and that everyone would suck down whatever shit they put on the tube. I think MTV is bloated: like GM was in the early 80s. Now the market is punishing them for their bloated egos and overripe corporate structure. It's enough to renew my faith in capitalism. (Well... somewhat.) Heh heh. I bet somewhere, Adam Curry is smiling. :) MC Large Ingot An extra bit -- Ingot sez: Jazz listeners got it down. Like yer music, forget about being thought of as "the cutting edge of what is 'in'", and just relax with the muzik u enjoy. That's also my answer to this whole categories flap. I can describe music many ways; but my categories are basic: Great, good, ok, not good, and crap. Categorization varies with mood.