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I've just acquired the latest Leftfield album, (ie. the one that took five years to produce, and after listening to it, one can see why). I enjoy the distinctive nature of each of the tracks, and it's been on constant rotation pretty much since I've got it. BUT... does anybody know if they have a web site, and if so, can anybody tell me where it is? -Marija ****************************************************************************** "Mah-REE-uh, she spells her name with a 'j', but hey, that's OK, we still like her anyway." -Marija Minic yu108631@yorku.ca ******************************************************************************

I've just acquired the new Leftfield album, (ie. the one that took five years to produce, and after listening to it, one can obviously see why). I really enjoy the distinctive nature of each track, and it has been in pretty much constant rotation since I got it. BUT... what I'd like to know is if they have a web site, and if so, I'd like to know what it is. Thanks, Marija ****************************************************************************** "Mah-ree-uh, she spells her name with a 'j', but hey, that's OK, we still like her anyway." Marija Minic yu108631@yorku.ca

I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? And is anyone else out there infatuated with the Skint label like I am? I'm told they're putting out a compilation soon and I can't wait.

On Mon, 20 May 1996, Andrew E Hime wrote:

quoted 5 lines And is anyone else out there infatuated with the Skint label like I am?

> > And is anyone else out there infatuated with the Skint label like I am? > I'm told they're putting out a compilation soon and I can't wait. > >

--SKINT REC'S IS THE ABSOLUTE ROCKIN'IST LABEL. They rule. My fave releases so far are the FatBoy Slim singles. Everybody loves a 303 rocks the house. Peace. 30303030303030303030303030303 James Benjamin Gill jgill@u.arizona.edu check it on the www, even though it sucks :(

quoted 5 lines I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it

> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it > seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking > here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about > more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically > anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else?

We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Music", not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". - Greg

Greg Earle writes: |>> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it |>> seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking |>> here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about |>> more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically |>> anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? |> |>We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Music", |>not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". Hey, why not? Back it up. I'm actually in even hearing about that.

quoted 11 lines Greg Earle writes:

> Greg Earle writes: >>> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it >>> seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking >>> here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about >>> more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically >>> anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? >> >> We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance >> Music", not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". > > Hey, why not? Back it up. I'm actually in even hearing about that.

Ask Jon Drukman about the difference between whose name(s) appear on the credits of Hardkiss records vs. who actually did the work on them (i.e. made the music) sometime. (Or go rummaging through the IDM archives and find Jon's previous posts on the subject) - Greg

Greg Earle writes: |>> Greg Earle writes: |>>>> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it |>>>> seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking |>>>> here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about |>>>> more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically |>>>> anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? |>>> |>>> We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance |>>> Music", not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants". |>> |>> Hey, why not? Back it up. I'm actually in even hearing about that. |> |>Ask Jon Drukman about the difference between whose name(s) appear on the |>credits of Hardkiss records vs. who actually did the work on them (i.e. made |>the music) sometime. |> |>(Or go rummaging through the IDM archives and find Jon's previous posts on |> the subject) Hell, I've discussed it with Drukman myself. But that's in the past, and Drukman is credited on the sleeves. He got ripped off, yeah, but time moves on and there are other things to discuss.

On Tue, 21 May 1996, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 2 lines We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Musi

> We could discuss Hardkiss here, but "IDM" refers to "Intelligent Dance Music", > not "Intellectually Dishonest Miscreants".

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On Mon, 20 May 1996, Andrew E Hime wrote:

quoted 6 lines I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it

> I read this list and I see talk of a lot of interesting stuff, but it > seems to me that an entire country is getting left out of the talking > here: the US. We do have some IDM labels, and I'd like to hear about > more. I mean, sure we have Reflective, Hardkiss, Sunburn, basically > anything coming out of San Francisco, but what else? >

Lots of good stuff comes out domestic. Touched on but not often highlighted on IDM is Detroit techno. Current standard bearers of the techno flag are Underground Resistance, Generator, and [help me out teep!]. Of course, Chicago House music will not die, and if nothing else has the rest of the world beat on the quantity tip. DJ Sneak must make 20 tracks a month, and Relief has to release 3 or 4 records a week. Going to Gramaphone in Chicago is a stone cold trip -- at any moment they probably have 1500 different House 12" in stock, and name DJ's spin in the booth for you. Is House Intelligent? It can be, and often is. Formulaic? Stupid? Sometimes. But oh man what a formula -- Chicago Hard House can move your body like nothing else. House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down to the booty-bumping eigenvectors. Other sites on the North American Tour -- Windsor -- across the border from Detroit, home of Richie Hawtin's Plus8. Milwaukee Wisconsin's Drop Bass Network has defined it's own style of Old Style addled hardcore (which IMHO usually sucks, but there are good records in the catalog). Minneapolis has a small but VERY creative scene. Freddy Fresh' Analog and Butterbeat labels are all over the map stylewise, but usually interesting and sometimes entertainingly bizarre. The Electric Music Foundation puts out an interesting variety of electronic and acid tracks, always on luscious colored vinyl. And Woody McBride's labels (Communique, Head in the Clouds) define a style of contemporary Acid and techno that is currently very popular in Europe. Hell, I know a bunch of people in IOWA trying to make tracks. Most of them just starting out, but interesting stuff. The focus on UK and European acts on IDM comes from the fact that in the UK electronic dance music and 'Intelligent' techno are part of the mainstream youth culture. This means that the penumbra of dance pop is large enough to hold Aphex Twin, Muziq, Autechre, et al. Here in the US, there are only a handful of people actually making a living recording electronic music on the IDM tip. There's also a streak of American Anglophilia at work here. 30 years ago we were buying Beatles and Rolling Stones records. 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello records. 10 years ago we were buying Human League records and watching Dr. Who. Now we're buying Autechre and watching Absolutely Fabulous. Factoid: They just brought a new Dr. Who online. Turns out, Dr. Who isn't even on TV in England any more -- they're making it for the US market now. I rest my case. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'When [mom is] asked what she thinks of God, she invariably says, "I don't worry about it." No doubt because she is worrying about the whereabouts of her keys.' -- Sean Williams Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

Kent Williams wrote on Tue, 21 May 96 15:22:59 BST :

quoted 2 lines House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down

> House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down > to the booty-bumping eigenvectors.

What a quote! Love it. J ^ lost in music

quoted 2 lines House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down

> House music is 5000 years of dance music collapsed down > to the booty-bumping eigenvectors.

MAN! CLASSIC! This oughta go in SOMEBODY's .signature ... :-)

quoted 2 lines 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello

> 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello > records.

How about "20 years ago we were re-enacting Firesign Theatre skits and buying Ramones records"? :-) (Elvis' first album was in late '77)

quoted 1 line 10 years ago we were buying Human League records

> 10 years ago we were buying Human League records

We were? Somebody actually bought "Crash"? :-) "10 years ago I was buying Test Dept. records" - Greg

On Tue, 21 May 1996, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 6 lines 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello

> > 20 years ago we were watching Monty Python and buying Elvis Costello > > records. > > How about "20 years ago we were re-enacting Firesign Theatre skits and buying > Ramones records"? :-) > (Elvis' first album was in late '77)

Uhh...you know what I mean. The Ramones don't illustrate the argument I was making, and '19 years' didn't have the same ring.

quoted 4 lines 10 years ago we were buying Human League records

> > > 10 years ago we were buying Human League records > > We were? Somebody actually bought "Crash"? :-)

I can't remember another mid-late 80's band that would illustrate the point. Modern English? Nik Kershaw? Simple Minds? --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'When [mom is] asked what she thinks of God, she invariably says, "I don't worry about it." No doubt because she is worrying about the whereabouts of her keys.' -- Sean Williams Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

Hello, Hello. I'm new to this mailing list and I just wrote to ask if leftfield were Intelligent Dance and if they were, could anyone tell me where I can get their discography and if anyone can send a list of IDM Artists. BTW, is intelligent house, ambience and intelligent (dolphin, ambient) jungle on-topic in this mailing list. Thanx, Chris Cole -- o _ Chris Cole <chrisc@patrol.i-way.co.uk> - | "To live is to dance, to dance is to live". / \ - Peanuts.

quoted 2 lines Hello. I'm new to this mailing list and I just wrote to ask if

>Hello. I'm new to this mailing list and I just wrote to ask if >leftfield were Intelligent Dance...

Hmmm. I wish I had that IDM chart I posted a couple months ago. It listed all the acts from least to most IDM and leftfield was sort of on the non end of the spectrum. Who knows if leftfield is IDM? Some of their tracks are definetley more on the intellegent side than others (whats with all these 'exotic' forgein vocalists?). I can tell you that in the US, leftfield, like the Chemical Brothers, are considered to be pretty underground acts. BTW, I saw them described in an artictle yesterday about the trainspotting party held in Cannes (at which they played live) as being an "industrial rap band." hehe... /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA

Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a couple of bucks used at a local place. It has a shark-jaw on the cover. Thanx Eric

On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Pixel8ion@aol.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a

> Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a > couple of bucks used at a local place. It has a shark-jaw on the cover.

It's the record Leftism, full length album with lent-in singers like J. Rotten, Toni Halliday (curve) Papa Dee to mention some... The music's really mixed and there's really no lack of variation on this platter.. ragga, dub, etno-techno, breakbeats, downtempo 'n a lil' bit of everything. Maybe you've heard the singles "original" or "release the pressure", they're both from Leftism. I really like this one, with some exceptions of course...(like some hilarious poem at the end of the record) If it's cheap, buy it, I bet you'll like some of the tracks. cheerio, franz. ____franz_enmark_____ --------obackav.11,-- --------903 33 umea,- --------sweden-------

On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Pixel8ion@aol.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a

> Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a > couple of bucks used at a local place. It has a shark-jaw on the cover.

Wouldn't mind knowing if Leftfield is available domestically in Canada, or North America in general... thanks! Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash *UPDATED* http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 7 lines On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Pixel8ion@aol.com wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Pixel8ion@aol.com wrote: > > > Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a > > couple of bucks used at a local place. It has a shark-jaw on the cover. > > Wouldn't mind knowing if Leftfield is available domestically in Canada, or > North America in general... thanks!

I think they are distributed through SONY [on the hard hands label -- I think.] -peter

At 00:31 20/11/96 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 14 lines On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Pixel8ion@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Pixel8ion@aol.com wrote: > >> Someone wanna give me the 411 on them? I just saw one of there's for a >> couple of bucks used at a local place. It has a shark-jaw on the cover. > >It's the record Leftism, full length album with lent-in singers like J. >Rotten, Toni Halliday (curve) Papa Dee to mention some... >The music's really mixed and there's really no lack of variation on this >platter.. ragga, dub, etno-techno, breakbeats, downtempo 'n a lil' bit of >everything. Maybe you've heard the singles "original" or "release the >pressure", they're both from Leftism. >I really like this one, with some exceptions of course...(like some >hilarious poem at the end of the record) If it's cheap, buy it, I bet >you'll like some of the tracks.

Indeed a very cool CD, I have it in my rack for about 1.5 year now... I think it was one of the first dance CD's I bought. Some parts are lame, but the third track "Sonf Of Life" is excellent, also check the remixes of this track published on the Remix Collection (Renaissance). "Open Up" with J.Rotten is also a wonderful track that proofs dance music isn't boring :))) I'd say, buy it, it's really worth it! now playing: Jimmy Hendrix "Little Wing" (I looooooooooooove it :) .%. WeeZ .%. WeeZeR@dma.be .%. MiNDVieW, rC & NeTFuNK! GRaPHiCiaN .%. .%. http://www.dma.be/p/bewoner/Weezer/index.htm .%. CD ReVieWS .%. .%. MiNDVieW MeTaLMaG : http://www.dma.be/p/mindview/index.htm .%. .%. RC OFFICIAL Page : http://www.dma.be/p/bewoner/christ/index.htm .%. Fire during techno party: a testimony... "Suddenly there was smoke everywhere. It seemed we were dacing for already 10 minuits on the tones of the fire alarm."

I went to 'my local' record shop (Dragon Disc in Camden) and heard a most unbelievable remix of Leftfield's 'Phat Planet' by Dave Clarke. Wow, yeah. It's not really IDM, strictly speaking, but it sounds, well, PHAT -- big schmoogy hard basslines slipping all over the place, wikked breakbeats, jump back kiss myself, it makes me want to shake my booty. :p Anyway, if anyone is familiar with this record, could they recommend sounds with a similar feel? Drum and bass with big farty basslines isn't quite enough: it needs to have that certain qu'elle heure est-il :p that I can't be bothered to write down but we all know what it is. Thanks mak p.s. -- i bought a record offa worm interface by 'himuro' (i think, if i read the label right). everyone clap. wa-hey! i'm making progress! it's good -- not mind-blowing -- sorta reminds me of buckfunk 3000. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, mak : wrote:

quoted 3 lines Drum and bass with big farty basslines isn't quite enough: it needs to

> Drum and bass with big farty basslines isn't quite enough: it needs to > have that certain qu'elle heure est-il :p that I can't be bothered to > write down but we all know what it is.

yes, is it nice when the record knows what time it is. ;) i'd hafta say check out meat beat manifesto. more precisely, "radio babylon"/"helter skelter" or jack's last album, _actual sounds & voices_. the album isn't all as you described, but it does have four of the tightest tracks i've ever heard, all right next to each other, in just this style. on a related note... dumb record i've been digging lately: susumu yokota, "future memory" * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# it's only in uncertainty/that we're naked and alive icq:5562209

On 14 Sep 99, mak : wrote re: (idm) Similar Sounds?:

quoted 2 lines heard a most

> heard a most > unbelievable remix of Leftfield's

So, who's heard any of the new Leftfield?? C'mon, out with the reviews! Or - oops - is this not "I" enough? I * np : emmanuel top - asteroid

The new Leftfield single, Afrika Shox, is pretty good if you like Kraftwerk/Bambaataa-style electro. It is better than his recent collaboration with Westbam. The Jedi Knights remix is a good return to their retro sound, and the Dave Clarke mix of another track Phat Planet is a good chunky electro mix of a techno-house cut. Also recommended in the electro vein is the new Luke Slater single All Exhale. CT

quoted 11 lines On 14 Sep 99, mak : wrote re: (idm) Similar Sounds?:

>On 14 Sep 99, mak : wrote re: (idm) Similar Sounds?: > >> heard a most >> unbelievable remix of Leftfield's > >So, who's heard any of the new Leftfield?? C'mon, out with the >reviews! Or - oops - is this not "I" enough? > >I >* >np : emmanuel top - asteroid

Opinion poll: Is Leftfield IDM? I think they're actually the closest thing to Intelligent *Dance* Music - they aim squarely at the dancefloor with crunch-techno tracks like Phat Planet and Double Flash, but they manage to infuse new sounds and structures into their music, meaning that you can listen to it equally well. Agree/disagree? (That's not to say that I rank them anywhere near equal with, say, Ae or AFX - it's a totally different style, and are those two really danceable? I tried dancing to Acroyear2 and sprained my ankle - but they are damn good at what they do.) James Roberts (aka ISDS) ------ www.mp3.com/isds --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 28 Dec 99, James Roberts wrote re: (idm) Leftfield:

quoted 1 line Opinion poll: Is Leftfield IDM?

> Opinion poll: Is Leftfield IDM?

Who cares :-) Being a stickler for categorisation doesn't make the music sound any different - and either you like it or you don't. I bought the new Leftfield the moment it arrived in the shops - having had such a long wait and build-up since the original (sic) album, which was very eclectic and pretty ground breaking in its day. I must admit that I was disappointed on first play through and put it aside (on one of those famous piles on the desk) only to pull it out again for a spot of speaker testing down in the lounge when (more mainstream oriented) friends came over. Surprisingly, what boomed forth from the bass bins filled me with glee and I really do enjoy the album now. It's not a headphone special. It's designed to be played LOUD and it works very well at that level. And no, it's not in any way similar to Ae. Banish the thought! I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 9 lines Opinion poll: Is Leftfield IDM? I think they're actually the closest thing

> Opinion poll: Is Leftfield IDM? I think they're actually the closest thing > to Intelligent *Dance* Music - they aim squarely at the dancefloor with > crunch-techno tracks like Phat Planet and Double Flash, but they manage to > infuse new sounds and structures into their music, meaning that you can > listen to it equally well. Agree/disagree? > (That's not to say that I rank them anywhere near equal with, say, Ae or > AFX - it's a totally different style, and are those two really danceable? I > tried dancing to Acroyear2 and sprained my ankle - but they are damn > good at what they do.)

idm was originally meant to describe the early meshing of dance music & some ah-hum-whatever 'intelligent' factor. listen to early autechre & aphex twin ('incunabula' & polygon window 'surfing on sine waves' should make the original definition clear to anyone.) since then it has changed so much that trying to make techno-pop bands such as 'leftfield' fit the idm bill is regressive & a tad tasteless. david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 10 lines From: "James Roberts" <james@robertsyork.freeserve.co.uk>

>From: "James Roberts" <james@robertsyork.freeserve.co.uk> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: (idm) Leftfield >Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:54:50 -0000 > >Opinion poll: Is Leftfield IDM? I think they're actually the closest >thing>to Intelligent *Dance* Music - they aim squarely at the dancefloor >with>crunch-techno tracks like Phat Planet and Double Flash, but they >manage to>infuse new sounds and structures into their music, meaning that >you can>listen to it equally well. Agree/disagree?

--agree...have you heard the afrika shox thing...it's pretty well known in uk as i'm sure you know...but there's some good stuff there... --it really is "intelligent dance music" --incidentally, i saw one of the leftfellows spin here in l.a. back in october...i gave him a goofy wasted grin and he just stared at me blank-faced...;=)

quoted 3 lines (That's not to say that I rank them anywhere near equal with, say, Ae

>(That's not to say that I rank them anywhere near equal with, say, Ae >or>AFX - it's a totally different style, and are those two really >danceable?

--agreed again...you can't compare them...they ARE coming from different places... <I>tried dancing to Acroyear2 and sprained my ankle - but they are damn>good at what they do.) --is that Autechre...it is isn't it...if so...i can easily understand the ankle problems... --my favorite Ae track will always be "Drane" from the peel sessions...it took me to another dimension altogether...no shitting... --since it came up...anyone remember the comic book character Acroyear from the Micronauts...??? i used to read it a bit many many years ago...and i found this today... --http://www.concentric.net/~elarse1/comics/comics.html Prof. V "Because the rage it burns like Chinese torture" -th-c- Professor Vast Expansion Research-Liquid Lab Scientific Outpost-Vulcan Solar System Resident Analog Architects: Prof. Vast-Expansion Specialist and Spacerock Infliction Dr. Fluff-Rotation Specialist and Pulse Architect ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Professor Vast wrote:

quoted 3 lines --since it came up...anyone remember the comic book character Acroyear

> --since it came up...anyone remember the comic book character Acroyear > from the Micronauts...??? i used to read it a bit many many years > ago...and i found this today...

The comic book Micronauts were based on a line of toys sold by a (defunct?) company called Mego (gee, I wonder...) There was an Acroyear action figure, and later an Acroyear II action figure. As a wee lad, I owned both. Of course, I owned them as a little kid who liked space toys, not as an obsessive adult hoarding them and selling them off for mad dollars on eBay, so they're long destroyed now... http://www.concentric.net/~elarse1/micront.html That first picture on the right (the dude with the huge pinwheels and the crazy P-Funk wheeled boots) is Acroyear (I). -d.w. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org