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I have an interview coming up and need to know who are the women doing idm? trance/dance/ambient/etc. Rather than start a complicated thread please email me privately. Thanks! Jan Jan Hanford - jan@shelby.com Shelby Group Ltd. - Internet Software Developers C o r p o r a t e W e b P a g e - http://www.shelby.com/ P e r s o n a l W e b P a g e - http://www.tile.net/jan/

quoted 4 lines I have an interview coming up and need to know who are the women

>I have an interview coming up and need to know who are the women >doing idm? trance/dance/ambient/etc. > >Rather than start a complicated thread please email me privately.

Why make it private? What's to hide about talking about women writing dance music? K Hand from Detroit and Saskia Sledgers who runs DJAX-UP-BEATS come to mind off the top of my head. Also half of GTO/Tricky Disco was a woman (who is greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL from Finland on Sahko who's a woman if I remember correctly. _ -robert | |___ ____ ____ _____ | |_ \ / -__/ / _/ | _ \ __________ |_____/ \___\ |_| | |__/ / -studio- \ _________________________________ |_| http://icse1.ucsd.edu/~rcurlee/ \

On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Robot wrote:

quoted 2 lines greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL

> greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL > from Finland on Sahko who's a woman if I remember correctly.

If I recall, this is also Steps-Dis-Charge who is featured on the new Instinct 2CD ambient compilation, "Ambient Systems II." According to the bio, "Steps-Dis-Charge is one of the few female artists to receive recognition and respect in a genre that is overly male dominated. A native of Austria, who spends most of her time in New York, Brokesch also records for Vienna's Cheap Records and Finaldn's highly regarded Sahko Recordings." More on the Ambient Systems II release later... Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong." For reviews, interviews, art & trash *UPDATED* http://www.io.org/~amichel/ amichel@io.org

At 11:18 PM -0700 10/2/96, Robot wrote:

quoted 7 lines Why make it private? What's to hide about talking about women writing dance

>Why make it private? What's to hide about talking about women writing dance >music? > >K Hand from Detroit and Saskia Sledgers who runs DJAX-UP-BEATS come to mind >off the top of my head. Also half of GTO/Tricky Disco was a woman (who is >greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL >from Finland on Sahko who's a woman if I remember correctly.

not to mention Riz Maslen (small fish with spine, neotropic), an artist who has recently got much play on this very mailing list... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------

To alls yall participating in this thread.... PLEASE KEEP IT UP=) There is not nearly enough info of this sort available... PLUR... Jeremy

quoted 16 lines At 11:18 PM -0700 10/2/96, Robot wrote:

>At 11:18 PM -0700 10/2/96, Robot wrote: >>Why make it private? What's to hide about talking about women writing dance >>music? >> >>K Hand from Detroit and Saskia Sledgers who runs DJAX-UP-BEATS come to mind >>off the top of my head. Also half of GTO/Tricky Disco was a woman (who is >>greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL >>from Finland on Sahko who's a woman if I remember correctly. > >not to mention Riz Maslen (small fish with spine, neotropic), an artist who >has recently got much play on this very mailing list... > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com >-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks to everyone for your list of women in idm! Several suggested I post the accumulated list which I will do shortly. Jan Jan Hanford - jan@shelby.com Shelby Group Ltd. - Internet Software Developers C o r p o r a t e W e b P a g e - http://www.shelby.com/ P e r s o n a l W e b P a g e - http://www.tile.net/jan/

Aaron Michelson wrote:

quoted 7 lines On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Robot wrote:

> > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Robot wrote: > > > greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL > > from Finland on Sahko who's a woman if I remember correctly. > > If I recall, this is also Steps-Dis-Charge who is featured on the new

Don't forget Small Fish With Spine. There is actually an Urb article on the Stands right now but it is really brief. However, she does talk about the fact that electronica is a "boys with their toys" genre for the most part. I need to get ready for work but if nobody else posts more info on herthen I will add to this tonight. Steve

And let us not forget Andrea Parker.

On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Aimee C. Merritt wrote:

quoted 1 line And let us not forget Andrea Parker.

> And let us not forget Andrea Parker.

Speaking of Andrea Parker, is that Rocking Chair Ep ever going to come out? I have been reading about it for a long time. I also thought that the Jedi Knights - Solina (with Carl Craig remixes) was suppose to be out by now. I guess everything keeps getting pushed back. B i l l S a m u e l s w l s @ U . A r i z o n a . E D U

Jan - Loved seeing your post about women in idm. One of our artists, Sara Campbell, aka NRSHA, is just beginning her quest for recognition. We released her first 12" "Annias" in August, got a nice review in URB and BPM Culture, and her second 12" comes out in November. She's a wonderfully independent, strong-willed young woman from San Francisco. I'm so fortunate to be able to work with her! I think she's an original space cowgrrrrrl. With warm thoughts, Corbin Dooley the pc music label

quoted 11 lines At 11:18 PM -0700 10/2/96, Robot wrote:

>At 11:18 PM -0700 10/2/96, Robot wrote: >>Why make it private? What's to hide about talking about women writing dance >>music? >> >>K Hand from Detroit and Saskia Sledgers who runs DJAX-UP-BEATS come to mind >>off the top of my head. Also half of GTO/Tricky Disco was a woman (who is >>greatly missed since she unfortunately passed away). Hrm, there's also SIL >>from Finland on Sahko who's a woman if I remember correctly. > >not to mention Riz Maslen (small fish with spine, neotropic), an artist who >has recently got much play on this very mailing list...

Dimension 23's recent release "Electronic Brain" on Harthouse's Pacific Rhythm compilation was written by a very talented female producer by the name of Julie Ida. Lookout for Dimension 23' upcoming "12,000 Ravers" EP on Harthouse US in late November. Richard Sihilling Eye Q / Harthouse * http://www.eye-q.com

At 23:01 06.10.96 -0700, "Maarten D. Schermer" wrote :

quoted 5 lines Tara Patterson (Autocreation)

>Tara Patterson (Autocreation) >Miquette Giraudy (System 7) >Nina Walsh (Sabrettes, one half of Slab) >Lida Huzik (done loads of stuff with Beaumont Hannant) >Lai (one half of Lamb)

Her name is Louise Rhodes, btw, and not Lai, she sang on one of the tracks on the new 808 State album, 'Don Solaris'. Has anyone heard Lamb's album?

quoted 2 lines Annie Williams (if that's her name... done a single on R&S with Mark van Hoen)

>Annie Williams (if that's her name... done a single on R&S with Mark van Hoen) >Beth Orton (sung with Chemicals & Two Lone Swordsmen)

... and William Orbit on the *GORGEOUS* 'Water From A Wine Leaf'. Oyvers

Brian Tang writes:

quoted 3 lines Sarcasitcally yours (not to mention really fucking sick of all the

>Sarcasitcally yours (not to mention really fucking sick of all the >off-topic bullshit on this list, like whining about web pages being >ripped off.

Many people on this list care about intellectual property in music and art for several reasons. First, because it's just morally right not to rip-off other people's work and tout it as your own. And, second, the (oftentimes small) earnings we make from our work, sustains artforms and musical genres that, all too often, don't get much support. Why is a Web page author any different from a novelist or a musician if what he/she creates is wholly individual?

quoted 3 lines We haven't seemed to had then women-in-idm thread in

>We haven't seemed to had then women-in-idm thread in >awhile, maybe someone would like to bring that beast out of the >closet again.),

Perhaps you'd prefer "girls in idm." There *are* women lurking here, y'know. Easy, Marie www.floatingcode.com

quoted 3 lines If you want us women on IDM to be called 'Chicks on IDM' what do you want

> > If you want us women on IDM to be called 'Chicks on IDM' what do you want > the lads to be called, Elizabeth, 'Cocks on IDM'? :)

Sounds quite REVOLTING... FYI: who's your favorite cock?

Ok.. not to fall into the baited thread trap.. but... For all the newbies (female and male).. there exists several recurring threads on IDM (and every other mailing list/newsgroup). One is the infamous "Women in IDM" thread where everyone chimes in on their favorite woman(en) IDM performer, eventually a list all the current (and not-so-current) women music makers in the IDM genre end up being listed (in fact, I think I have the most complete back in the mail file megs somewhere :-P). For instance... Andrea Parker, Riz Mazlen, whether or not their exists a Lisa Carbon, etc.etc. and then it usually flares into some tangent socioeconomic philosophy chatter that fills the list for a good week (you know what I'm talkin' 'bout). Not that its a bad thing.. its just what the original poster was referring to. And, for the record, it was never _Girls_ in IDM... we aren't THAT sexist around here =;-) Although, I think "les femmes IDM " was mentioned once, but it was just too avant garde for this group <insert sarcasm.. as if ANYTHING were too avant garde for us :-O> I looove pretension. Havin' a liddle late evening fun... L8r, Kev. elizabeth wrote:

quoted 25 lines Marie Kacmarek wrote:

> > Marie Kacmarek wrote: > > > > >We haven't seemed to had then women-in-idm thread in > > >awhile, maybe someone would like to bring that beast out of the > > >closet again.), > > > > Perhaps you'd prefer "girls in idm." There *are* women lurking here, > > y'know. > > > > Easy, > > > > Marie > > www.floatingcode.com > > What?! So I'm not the only female lurker? > > Haha. So what's the deal? I'm new here & haven't really noticed any > gender bias before now, but then again, I'm the only female grad student > in my department & quite used to being "the chick." So I'm voting for > "chicks in idm" unless someone's offended by that. Well, actually, if > you are, get over it - chick's a cool word. > > -elizabeth > (female and lovin' it!)

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Marie Kacmarek wrote:

quoted 12 lines We haven't seemed to had then women-in-idm thread in

> > >We haven't seemed to had then women-in-idm thread in > >awhile, maybe someone would like to bring that beast out of the > >closet again.), > > Perhaps you'd prefer "girls in idm." There *are* women lurking here, > y'know. > > Easy, > > Marie > www.floatingcode.com

What?! So I'm not the only female lurker? Haha. So what's the deal? I'm new here & haven't really noticed any gender bias before now, but then again, I'm the only female grad student in my department & quite used to being "the chick." So I'm voting for "chicks in idm" unless someone's offended by that. Well, actually, if you are, get over it - chick's a cool word. -elizabeth (female and lovin' it!)

quoted 1 line Can't see the necessity for terms of gender distinction here myself, what

>Can't see the necessity for terms of gender distinction here myself, what

relevance does that have on email? word up.

What?! So I'm not the only female lurker?

quoted 7 lines Haha. So what's the deal? I'm new here & haven't really noticed any

> >Haha. So what's the deal? I'm new here & haven't really noticed any >gender bias before now, but then again, I'm the only female grad student >in my department & quite used to being "the chick." So I'm voting for >"chicks in idm" unless someone's offended by that. Well, actually, if >you are, get over it - chick's a cool word. >

For baby chickens maybe! Or for the 'Feathered up and Feather brained' fluffy bikini types! Maybe they'd think it was cute. If you want us women on IDM to be called 'Chicks on IDM' what do you want the lads to be called, Elizabeth, 'Cocks on IDM'? :) Can't see the necessity for terms of gender distinction here myself, what relevance does that have on email? and besides, you should hear the array of words for women on the Surfing mailing lists and usenets that I have to studiously ignore to get to the info I want! It's a bit sad really, in flippin 1997! Alessandra

quoted 2 lines -elizabeth

>-elizabeth >(female and lovin' it!)

You'd be suprised how many girls on this list are using boys names..........and vice versa........... April .............. .... . ...... .... ... .. ..... ..... .... .... . . . .. ......... .. ...... .. ... http://www.purescript.com.au/giv "L'imagination est plus importante que le savoir." ... . .... ....... ... .. ............ ............... .. ........... ..... . . .... .... ..... ..... ....

On Tuesday, 05-Aug-97, April O'Neal wrote [about Re: (idm) women in idm]:

quoted 2 lines You'd be suprised how many girls on this list are using boys

>You'd be suprised how many girls on this list are using boys >names..........and vice versa...........

your one of them right? anyway I think that's something pretty stupid to do. There's no point in it. __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ www.freq-div.home.ml.org

Kev said:

quoted 3 lines Not that its a bad thing.. its just what the original poster was

>Not that its a bad thing.. its just what the original poster was >referring to. And, for the record, it was never _Girls_ in IDM... we >aren't THAT sexist around here =;-)

I'm not going to make any sweeping generalizations, but there are some people on this list that might fall into the sexist category. May I quote Gonzi from 8/1/97:

quoted 2 lines Again, thanks to everyone for their help. I was trying to think of a way

>Again, thanks to everyone for their help. I was trying to think of a way >to repay everyone and the best I could come up with is this:

quoted 2 lines > http://www.xxxempire.com/celeb/member.html L: redhorse P: sxfpbuyz ( ><- though you don't seem to need these at the moment.)

quoted 2 lines Here you can find so many pictures of Claire Daines you'll have a heart

>Here you can find so many pictures of Claire Daines you'll have a heart >attack.

This stuff has nothing to do with IDM. Suzanne

On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Suzanne wrote:

quoted 4 lines > > http://www.xxxempire.com/celeb/member.html L: redhorse P: sxfpbuyz ( > ><- though you don't seem to need these at the moment.) > > Suzanne

hey suzanne...thanks for the url! i must have missed it the first time around. :P peace... prymal ====== prymal@enteract.com www.enteract.com/~prymal A New January - digital electro dance music anj@enteract.com www.enteract.com/~anj

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quoted 11 lines On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Suzanne wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Suzanne wrote: > >> > http://www.xxxempire.com/celeb/member.html >> ><- though you don't seem to need these at the moment.) >> >> Suzanne > >hey suzanne...thanks for the url! i must have missed it the first time >around. :P > > peace... prymal

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At 11:28 05/08/97 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 1 line >> http://www.xxxempire.com/celeb/member.html L: redhorse P: sxfpbuyz (

quoted 2 lines Here you can find so many pictures of Claire Daines you'll have a heart

>>Here you can find so many pictures of Claire Daines you'll have a heart >>attack.

quoted 1 line This stuff has nothing to do with IDM.

>This stuff has nothing to do with IDM.

yes it does cheerio! np - love's theme - love unlimited oosalford oosounds xxwe want to hear your music! email! ICQ 2232430!