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Hello, There is a copy of cylob's cylobian sunset and some photek platters at a local record store sans listening station. Could some one plese give me a quick description/review of cylobian sunset and photek in general. Also any advice on either of these groups regarding any sugested material recorded at a s l o w e r tempo? thanks, any help is greatly appreciate - j.

quoted 9 lines Hello,

>Hello, > > There is a copy of cylob's cylobian sunset and some photek >platters at a local record store sans listening station. Could some >one plese give me a quick description/review of cylobian sunset and >photek in general. Also any advice on either of these groups regarding >any sugested material recorded at a s l o w e r tempo? > >thanks, any help is greatly appreciate - j.

Hey, Photek (or any other good jungle) played at 33rpm becomes thick, fuzzy, abstract triphop. Try it, you'll like it. -Phil [----------] [---] [-----] [-----] [-----] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [--------] [-----] [-----] [---] [-----] [----------] Home is where the stereo is!

On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, David Ross wrote:

quoted 2 lines Don't have any Photek and just made my first Chris Jeffs purchase on

> Don't have any Photek and just made my first Chris Jeffs purchase on > Saturday.

he he he. This is gonna be fun

quoted 1 line But hey! There's melody! WOW!

> But hey! There's melody! WOW!

yeah, maybe you should get another seminal release, entitled "Industrial Folk Songs", it's along the same lines of musical aptitude as "Cylobian Sunset," just expressed in a different way. This is a single you don't need to listen to first; if you're a lover of melody then this is for you. Love to hear what you think. james b gill being a student

quoted 1 line I'll bite.

>I'll bite.

Mee too.

quoted 1 line I'm pleasantly surprised with Cyclobian Sunset.

>I'm pleasantly surprised with Cyclobian Sunset.

I'm not. I loved the Kinesthesia 12"s to death, same with the album (though not as much as the 12"s, wish they were on CD so I could play them while commuting). The Cylob album was a disappointment though, because Chris seems to have gone all poppy on us just like Mike Paradinas. I for one really love that dark, evil music that used to come out on RePHLeX, the stuff that combined dissonant synthi melodies layered on top of complex distorted percussion with psychedelic, isolatioist sounds/timbres. Like Church of Pain, with its incredible screwed up organ chords and such, wow. Truly unique. Cylobian Sunset, by comparison, sounds like a waste of good talent and music equipment. Chris could have really churned out some killer stuff that made good use of his analog machines and his phenomenal innovation/creativity, but all he ended up doing was creating yet another cheesy pseudo electro revival album, with very predictable and disposable melodies a la any other music in this genre. It's not bad at all, mind you, it's actually extremely good. Very well done. He could have done something far, far, far better though. Oh well, maybe next time. If you like this album though and you do not have the Kinesthesia 12"s, get them. You have no idea what you are missing. Photek on the other hand... buy UFO/Rings Around Saturn, and try out the latter at 33... it's amazing.

quoted 2 lines Photek on the other hand... buy UFO/Rings Around Saturn, and try out the

> Photek on the other hand... buy UFO/Rings Around Saturn, and try out the > latter at 33... it's amazing.

okay this is the second time i've seen this suggestion on the list in as many days. i feel the need to comment... last night i figured what the hell, i'll try rings around saturn at 33 and see if it sounds cool. it didn't. it sounded like a brilliant atmospheric drum & bass track played at the wrong speed. just my two cents, matt

quoted 2 lines Hey, Photek (or any other good jungle) played at 33rpm becomes thick,

> Hey, Photek (or any other good jungle) played at 33rpm becomes thick, > fuzzy, abstract triphop. Try it, you'll like it.

Errr.... I can't find a button marked 33rpm on my CD machine... _____________________________________________________ Jezz @ http://homepages.enterprise.net/jezz/ Roland D-110 Yamaha YS-100 Casio CZ-101 Boss SE-50 C-Labs AWE-32 Tascam 4 Track Tascam 8ch Mixer _____________________________________________________

quoted 5 lines The Cylob album was a disappointment though, because Chris

> The Cylob album was a disappointment though, because Chris > seems to have gone all poppy on us just like Mike Paradinas. I for one > really love that dark, evil music that used to come out on RePHLeX, the > stuff that combined dissonant synthi melodies layered on top of complex > distorted percussion with psychedelic, isolatioist sounds/timbres.

Why does melodic = poppy? Mike P.'s Jake Slazenger stuff is definetley more upbeat and melodic and not as dark as his earlier recently rereleased stuff, but that's the whole point of the Slazenger moniker. Wait and see what he puts out as mu-ziq in a couple months. Anyway, it's impossible to satisfy all of the people all of the time, as you can tell by some of the reactions on the list. Somepeople think the hardcore-super fast-distorted breakbeat old school rephlex stuff is a bore while others totally love it and think they've sold out now. Oh well.

quoted 1 line Cylobian Sunset, by comparison, sounds like a waste of good talent and music >equipment

> Cylobian Sunset, by comparison, sounds like a waste of good talent and music >equipment.

You can't expect C. Jeffs to keep putting out the same record again and again. What's wrong with doing something different? The Kinesthesia ep's are great, but the music on the first one is like 4 or 5 years old now. Let the poor guy move on. And if you don't like the Cylobian Sunset or Loops & Breaks LP's you'll like his newer unreleased stuff even less. Anyway, Cylobian Sunset is my fav. album of the year after Feed Me Weird Things. //"'' //''resh Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA