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Please read this entire letter before you decide to post any replies. Maybe nobody really cares, but I'll say this anyway. I've never taken drugs other than pot, but I there's something to be said about smoking a large amount of pot and listening to some really good music. It comes ALIVE! You feel great before, during and afterward. No hangovers, no problems functioning in your daily life, and you can quit whenever you want. I haven't smoked in a long time, but I'd really like to again. I miss it. I had a great time and I found the music to sound MUCH better this way. Anyway, for those of you who bash drugs without experiencing them, you don't know what you're talking about. I don't think people should go for the really hard stuff, but that's their decision-not mine. I haven't checked lately, but as far as I know, I'm still not God. I personally refuse to do heavy narcotics because I don't think the feeling's worth the risks involved. If you choose not to do drugs, more power to you. That's mighty fine with me. It's your decision. When we smoked up, we sat around listening to cool music, eating and watching some neat TV shows. We didn't go for a drive or anything dangerous like that. So as long as we find something like this to enhance our enjoyment of said music, I believe it's relevant to the list and people should be allowed to talk about it. If you don't like the subject, you don't have to read it. I'll tell you what I do. If something's not of interest to me, I don't read it. It's a quite novel approach, and it works remarkably well. It's been said a million times before, "If you don't like the subject of someone's post, rather than getting all pissy about and starting a flamewar (like certain four-legged creatures have repeatedly done (much to everyone's lament)), hit the 'D' button, and everyone will be happy." I really think this will work better than relying on the N.P.'s (net police) to tell us what we can and cannot talk about. PS-I hope I don't get kicked off the lists for posting this stuff. I just thought this might put people in a better frame of mind when reading this stuff.

quoted 4 lines I've never taken drugs other

> I've never taken drugs other > than Pot, but I there's something to be said about smoking a large amount of > Pot and listening to some really good music. It comes ALIVE! You feel great > before, during and afterward.

Heh ... wait'll you discover what Ecstacy does for music, BWAH HAH HA ...

quoted 2 lines No hangovers, no problems functioning in your

> No hangovers, no problems functioning in your > daily life, and you can quit whenever you want.

On the other hand, guess you haven't been hanging with some long-term hardcore stoners lately ...

quoted 2 lines Anyway, for those of you who bash drugs without experiencing them, you don't

> Anyway, for those of you who bash drugs without experiencing them, you don't > know what you're talking about.

You *do* realize that you're the preacher and we're the choir, don't you? (-:

quoted 3 lines P.S. - I hope I don't get kicked off the lists for posting this stuff. I

> P.S. - I hope I don't get kicked off the lists for posting this stuff. I > just thought this might put people in a better frame of mind when reading > this stuff.

We won't kick you off, but My Uncle Joe (Joe Friday ... maybe you've heard of him ... ) would like a word with you ... *grin* - Greg

quoted 5 lines Maybe nobody really cares, but I'll say this anyway. I've never taken

> Maybe nobody really cares, but I'll say this anyway. I've never taken > drugs other than pot, but I there's something to be said about smoking a > large amount of pot and listening to some really good music. It comes ALIVE! > You feel great before, during and afterward. No hangovers, no problems > functioning in your daily life, and you can quit whenever you want.

I imagine most of us on IDM don't care. I don't. Just one thing (and this applies to all drugs, really): You can really only apply the phrase "You can quit whenever you want" to yourself. Since everyone has a different chemical makeup and different tolerances for various substances, it is not fair to say that anyone can quit whenever they want because it simply isn't true. Lucky for you (and most others) that you can. One should never advise people on what their body can take unless you are their physician.

quoted 3 lines Anyway, for those of you who bash drugs without experiencing them, you

> Anyway, for those of you who bash drugs without experiencing them, you > don't know what you're talking about. I don't think people should go for > the really hard stuff, but that's their decision-not mine.

For some of us, pot *is* the really hard stuff. *shrug* It's all a matter of willingness and tolerance.

quoted 1 line I haven't checked lately, but as far as I know, I'm still not God.

> I haven't checked lately, but as far as I know, I'm still not God.

I'll confirm it for you. :-)

quoted 3 lines So as long as we find something like this to enhance our enjoyment

> So as long as we find something like this to enhance our enjoyment > of said music, I believe it's relevant to the list and people should be > allowed to talk about it.

You can talk about whatever you want. It's a free net. However, last time I checked, this list was about music. We all know that many of the artists involved in this type of music are also involved in drugs, that's no big secret. It's also no secret that many of its listeners do drugs to enhance the experience of the music. As an adjucnt, the subject of drugs is perfectly reasonable to talk about, but as the main topic of any discussion, well, I just think that there are plenty of other places on the net to do this without having to do it here. I assure you that this list is busy enough with the topic of music that we don't need postings purely about drugs. There was a great thread a while back which started a small subthread about how much pot Jack Dangers smokes before a gig. It was funny (and reasonably short), and it made sense in the context of this list. As for your personal experiences on drugs, as long as they're in the context of music, hey, post away. Think about this, though: One of the things I do while listening to this sort of music is pay my bills. I think that it really enhances the music; all those visions of money being sucked from my checking account complement beautifully the swirling textures of the music. I am 99.9% positive, however, that no one here wants to read about my bi-monthly bill-paying experiences. And even if there was someone (who must be seriously sick) who did want to read them, posting those experiences to this list isn't really the right way to go about it. That's just my two cents.

quoted 1 line PS-I hope I don't get kicked off the lists for posting this stuff.

> PS-I hope I don't get kicked off the lists for posting this stuff.

I hope not too. Anyone who does kick you off a list for posting things like that is a coward and a hypocrite. As long as there's music in there, go for it. - Adam J Weitzman Individual, Inc. weitzman@individual.com

Erm, how is this even tangentially related to either IDM or ambient? obAmbient/IDM: I finally got 'round to picking up UFOrb this weekend. It's really good. Plus, I managed to find one with the Blue Room CD, which is also really good. Really. -- Berry R. Thrailkill (brt581s@nic.smsu.edu) eccentric-for-hire "The future isn't what it used to be." --Ambassador G'Kar, Babylon 5