think a lotta people got real psyched when this weird shit started to
have truck with the squares. got with rappers, got with bands, tried
to make it work with the general population... branch out, see the
world, get paid/pussy. if radiohead and timbaland could jack idm
flavor and get hailed as geniuses, well then just maybe.....
but pop music and pop music-influenced music havent given anything
back to anybody... it's the same disposable
culturevulture-with-the-wandering-eye shit it's been since halliburton
blew down the 2towers, asking artists to compromise for no real reason
other than to maintain the tritest conceivable consensus. and I think
world events, these particular wars and economic/ecological hamfistery
have made rolling with the lcd crowd feel quite unavoidably
distasteful. it's getting harder and harder to make excuses for the
mainstream's bland insistence on vapid optimism and obsessive
materialism, every year corporations seem to squander any kind of good
will we might want to bear toward them--- the whole POP dream has, as
houellebecq would say, "collapsed under the weight of its own
meaninglessness."
and so people seem to be checking in on the technofreaks again.
listening to some guitar-holding sissy sing some vague nonsense feels
like watching some holywood drama-school hustler pretend to be average
on the big screen... so I think there's increasing value once again in
dudes who can master technology and flip the paradigm that we see all
around us (technology enslaving men), make the machines sing the way
humans could sing before singing had all its urgency and mortality
autotuned out of it,
idm resurgence is clearly in the cards.
On 1/16/09, chthonic streams <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:
quoted 67 lines i may be speaking out of turn here, but here's my opinion.> i may be speaking out of turn here, but here's my opinion.
>
> "IDM' was the name of this list (as you must know) but then became
> attached to a certain sound. in some ways it replaced "electronica" as
> the buzzword for a certain type of electronic-based music.
>
> this "sound" is largely out of favor at the moment, partially due to
> too many clone artists, and partially due to trends moving on. this
> means people, such as yourself, move on too.
>
> as those three letters never really meant anything, we can continue to
> talk about various kinds of electronic music here, such as breakcore
> or dubstep. but gone are the salad days of the original artists that
> were the impetus of this list. autechre, squarepusher, and even aphex
> still release records, but not at the same pace. and they don't seem
> to be surrounded by a particular "scene" or group of artists anymore.
>
> warp records had a mainstream spotlight shone on it due to
> namechecking from thom yorke for awhile. but even radiohead have
> largely jettisoned the electronic elements introduced 9-10 years ago.
> in the meantime, warp has diversified into dance-rock, 60s/70s-
> influenced pop, and soundtracks. that makes them seem more like the
> sound of the past than the sound of the future.
>
> i don't say this to criticize warp or the artists mentioned. just
> making observations, and pointing out that things change. this list
> seems to be focused on something which has largely passed, although
> the same ideas can be applied to good music being made today, i'll bet
> many music-makers and -listeners don't wish to be associated with the
> "IDM" tag. and thus they're not on this list.
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2009, at 1:25 PM, GilFirst Name Videla wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>> It's been quite a # of years since I have been on this list, maybe
>> over 7. I think the first time I sub'd was in 1993 or 94. Around
>> 2000/01 I think is when I left. I had become a dad, got married,
>> grew tired of the endless AUTECHRE wars that clogged the inbox so I
>> unsubbed.
>>
>> Recently, I grew tired of listening to countless M_nus clones
>> labelling themselves "minimal" artists, discovered yet another genre
>> I'll never understand called "electro house" So I thought I outta go
>> back on that IDM list that was so influentail to me years ago.
>>
>> While I expected some things to change I guess I am curious about
>> the somewhat small signal to nosie ratio here. I'm not complaining,
>> not in the least. I'm just a bit surprised to receive maybe 1 or 2
>> digest a week. Back when it was easily 5-6 a day (sometimes)
>> So since I've been away, anyone care to summarize what's changed
>>
>> Feel free to message me privately if you feel this will grow into a
>> huge unnecessary discussion. I'm just curious on your thoughts since
>> i've pretty much disappeared from IDM music for quite sometime...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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