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Date:
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:29:29 -0500
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Re: [idm] [slightly off topic] IDM veteran a little baffled
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i may be speaking out of turn here, but here's my opinion. "IDM' was the name of this list (as you must know) but then became attached to a certain sound. in some ways it replaced "electronica" as the buzzword for a certain type of electronic-based music. this "sound" is largely out of favor at the moment, partially due to too many clone artists, and partially due to trends moving on. this means people, such as yourself, move on too. as those three letters never really meant anything, we can continue to talk about various kinds of electronic music here, such as breakcore or dubstep. but gone are the salad days of the original artists that were the impetus of this list. autechre, squarepusher, and even aphex still release records, but not at the same pace. and they don't seem to be surrounded by a particular "scene" or group of artists anymore. warp records had a mainstream spotlight shone on it due to namechecking from thom yorke for awhile. but even radiohead have largely jettisoned the electronic elements introduced 9-10 years ago. in the meantime, warp has diversified into dance-rock, 60s/70s- influenced pop, and soundtracks. that makes them seem more like the sound of the past than the sound of the future. i don't say this to criticize warp or the artists mentioned. just making observations, and pointing out that things change. this list seems to be focused on something which has largely passed, although the same ideas can be applied to good music being made today, i'll bet many music-makers and -listeners don't wish to be associated with the "IDM" tag. and thus they're not on this list. On Jan 15, 2009, at 1:25 PM, GilFirst Name Videla wrote:
quoted 25 lines Hey all,> Hey all, > It's been quite a # of years since I have been on this list, maybe > over 7. I think the first time I sub'd was in 1993 or 94. Around > 2000/01 I think is when I left. I had become a dad, got married, > grew tired of the endless AUTECHRE wars that clogged the inbox so I > unsubbed. > > Recently, I grew tired of listening to countless M_nus clones > labelling themselves "minimal" artists, discovered yet another genre > I'll never understand called "electro house" So I thought I outta go > back on that IDM list that was so influentail to me years ago. > > While I expected some things to change I guess I am curious about > the somewhat small signal to nosie ratio here. I'm not complaining, > not in the least. I'm just a bit surprised to receive maybe 1 or 2 > digest a week. Back when it was easily 5-6 a day (sometimes) > So since I've been away, anyone care to summarize what's changed > > Feel free to message me privately if you feel this will grow into a > huge unnecessary discussion. I'm just curious on your thoughts since > i've pretty much disappeared from IDM music for quite sometime... > > > >
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