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Lee Stacey
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Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:07:08 +0100
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RE: [idm] IDM is neither Intelligent nor Dance. Discuss
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I think IDM is bullshit but I like a lot of the music :) With Kind regards Lee Stacey Email : lee@codeaudio.com Tel : +44 (0) 1444 870794 Mob : +44 (0) 7734 414385 -----Original Message----- From: StaticBeats [mailto:minimalism@staticbeats.com] Sent: 08 October 2003 18:43 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] IDM is neither Intelligent nor Dance. Discuss ------------------------------------------------ Start of daeta32 buffer: Wed Oct 08 10:25:21 2003 daeta32: hey man.. daeta32: what do you think of the new lfo album? StaticBeats: i think the ordering of the tracks is strange StaticBeats: i like some of the tracks StaticBeats: but nothing is groundbreaking or different from anything else out there StaticBeats: "the return of LFO" it is not daeta32: so the new lfo.. StaticBeats: yeah daeta32: it thinks its' fucking dope.. daeta32: i really really like it.. StaticBeats: cool :) daeta32: as far as groundbreaking.. daeta32: you can't apply that word to idm.. StaticBeats: i havent listened to it straight through more than one time daeta32: at least in my opinion.. StaticBeats: good point daeta32: there hasn't been a groundbreaking idm release in like two years.. daeta32: ever since the whole cutup hiphop phase that prefuse and machine drum and dabrye started.. StaticBeats: wert StaticBeats: i like the new luke vibert dude daeta32: i don't. daeta32: haha.. StaticBeats: its like classic acid techno daeta32: it's too generic sounding to me.. daeta32: it sounds too much like it could be anybody.. daeta32: and it's a bit too polished... daeta32: i used to be obsessed with vibert man.. daeta32: i mean totally obsessed.. StaticBeats: ha ha daeta32: and i loved his music for a few reasons.. daeta32: and those reasons don't exist in his music any more.. daeta32: i have a theory that he's being lazy, but he's playing it off like he's trying to put out revival albums.. StaticBeats: ha ha daeta32: like his amen andrews 12"s and the new I love acid cd... StaticBeats: the quintessential stoner daeta32: i'm serious man.. StaticBeats: i believe it daeta32: i've hung out with him three times... daeta32: and the first two times.. daeta32: it was for over three or four hours... daeta32: and it wasn't at a music venue.. daeta32: and i can tell you first hand, that the man is lazy.. daeta32: and he just can't care less at times.. daeta32: if you saw his performance at the warp show in la you would be pissed. daeta32: as far as i'm concerned, he hasn't made a really great vibert release since big soup... daeta32: everything after that was so gimmicky and polished sounding.. StaticBeats: ha ha StaticBeats: the critic daeta32: the releases he put out before that sounded like he made them in his bedroom.. daeta32: and they were almost unfinished.. they had a warm charm to them.. daeta32: even his plug material.. daeta32: now he sounds like 100 other artists.. StaticBeats: oh cmon you cant diss plug daeta32: i'm not.. StaticBeats: that shit was fucking dope when it came out StaticBeats: i havent even heard big soup daeta32: i meant even his plug material was fucking insanely good. StaticBeats: i have it on vinyl StaticBeats: ah daeta32: big soup was it.. daeta32: it went into orbit dude.. daeta32: he took his style to a point where many didn't even get it.. daeta32: anything after has sounded like a poor example of what he's capable of.. daeta32: he had a sound, those popping drums that sounded like they'd be lightly compressed, those melodies that lingered on and on, those samples from weird films., all gone in the last three years. StaticBeats: wow. those are some pretty harsh words man StaticBeats: you should write a review of the album daeta32: i was a huge fan... daeta32: i'm serious.. daeta32: dude, at one point, there was like a two year stretch that he was my favorite artist of all time.. daeta32: i've got vibert tracks so rare that they weren't even initially on his disography... daeta32: i went through hell to get some of that shit too.. daeta32: haha.. daeta32: that was then.. daeta32: when i'd die to just hear one more track of his.. StaticBeats: and now ? daeta32: i get his releases and i feel like he's not trying.. daeta32: i almost didn't even get his new cd.. StaticBeats: wow daeta32: it's just not exciting any more.. daeta32: for me.. getting a new aphex album is still exciting... StaticBeats: time to move on ... ? StaticBeats: hell yes daeta32: getting a new autechre album is still exciting.. StaticBeats: Drukqs rocked my twat daeta32: and my opinion? StaticBeats: as did men 1 daeta32: paradinas and vibert are done. StaticBeats: Men 1 hit my clit StaticBeats: yeah i agree with that daeta32: unless they start putting some effort into their releases, i'm not buying any more. StaticBeats: but it will still sell because of their names daeta32: of course. StaticBeats: well then, in the "biz" thats what matters daeta32: bands like radiohead can put out three chord crap for their next 10 releases and it'll sell 3 million copies cause they have such a hardcore fanbase. StaticBeats: yup StaticBeats: have you heard the new otto von schirach - chopped zombie fungus ? StaticBeats: its fucking dope StaticBeats: hella noisy daeta32: nope.. daeta32: dude. daeta32: this conversation should be posted to the idm list. daeta32: haha daeta32: that was some heavy talking. StaticBeats: okie StaticBeats: brb End of daeta32 buffer: Wed Oct 08 10:25:21 2003 ------------------------------------------------ Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com > Electronic Music > Digital Culture http://www.boomboombap.com > First Come > First Heard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 29/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 29/09/2003 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org