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From:
jacob z.
To:
dj pie
Cc:
IDM
Date:
Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: [idm] idm girls
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warning: abstractification! On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, dj pie wrote:
quoted 4 lines i don't necessarily disagree with the statement that there are a lot> i don't necessarily disagree with the statement that there are a lot > fewer women into idm--i just think it is pointless and possibly > divisive to makea big deal out of it as a 'women are different than men' > kind of thing.
i agree with you, dj pie. but this is an old debate and actually pretty interesting, i think. not just girls vs. boys, but the question of "does it matter who made/played the music?" for some marginalized types, it does - if you're gay, and you've got a gay agenda, and you want to push it through music, then it does matter. this is as divisive as it would be for you to say "i'm making girl music," but in some cases, people want this division in order to make a point, or to give voice to people/ideas who normally don't get heard. still, it is about music here and not politics. a couple of gay students approached my music history professor wanting to know if schubert was gay, because they thought they could hear it in his music. to them, it did matter. i can't generally hear gayness or boynees or girlness in music, but then i'm not really listening for it. turns out schubert may have been gay after all, but i still don't hear his quartets as "gay quartets." no point, really. anyway, i'm just playing devil's advocate. i say let the art speak for itself. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org