We tried to get a free Coke machine for the office on the back end of that
deal but it never came through. Probably a good thing seeing as I already
have a rampant caffeine addiction. We also tried for the free BMW for Amon
but no luck. Let's put it in perspective here. In this day and age everyone
should be able to see through advertising. Amon doesn't stand behind Coke
one way or another, he's not their poster boy. It's just collecting a good
deal of money to have a track he already recorded used. He can then use said
money to spend more time not having a day job and making more music. Moby
made a very good point in an interview, you can either take their money or
they'll just go and hire someone unknown to make a track that kind of sounds
like your track they wanted and everyone will think it's you anyway. So
might as well take the money and put it to good use. It's doing more good in
the pockets of your favorite artists than it is in someone elses. You
shouldn't read so much into it. It's just music in the background of a
message that you either agree with or don't, a product you like or don't.
Did any of you actually start to drink more Coke because of Amon?
Jeff
on 5/9/01 2:18 PM, Lander at gamera_@yahoo.com wrote:
quoted 147 lines --- Christopher Dilkus <cpdilkus@snip.net> wrote:
> --- Christopher Dilkus <cpdilkus@snip.net> wrote:
>> Does this mean Amon Tobin has to drink Coke and drive whateverthefuck
>> kind
>> of car that was in the commercial? Wow, the Beatles must have worn
>> Nike's
>> ('cept Lennon, he was dead) cause they let Nike used Revolution in a
>> commercial...
>>
>> Dil
>
> Oh antagonistic yet musically appreciative soul-brother of mine,
>
> I think we agree in spirit but I'm sure you missed my point. Cars and
> shoes are not necessarily ideas or forces of politics, and it can safely
> be said, I think, that one does not agree or disagree with shoes on a
> fundamentally philosophical level if one has already chosen to be a
> popular mainstream musician.
> The WoD is a different matter. It is ALL about ideas, Theirs vs. Mine.
> *My idea is that it is a case of the medicine being worse than the
> disease: drug addiction can often be cured and bodies can usually heal,
> but there is no known remedy for decades in prison without parole.
> *Their idea is that druggies should go to jail and rot for their sins.
> Give me crack over the misguided vengeance of the US government any day--
> it's more hopeful. Clear philosophical differences here!
>
> HOWEVER, as Atomly pointed out, RDJ might not have even known about the
> whole thing until he recieved a check in the mail. I tried to lace my
> post liberally with the word "if", but perhaps it was, however important,
> overlooked.
>
> My whole point was that
> -RDJ is not necessarily a sellout because the music was in some commercial
> -even IF he knew about it and agreed with the message of the commercial he
> still isn't a sellout
> -even IF he somehow is a sellout (whatever the hell a sellout is), it
> doesn't mean his music suddenly sucks
> -finally, to not buy Aphex Twin recordings because of this whole debacle
> is absolutely ridiculous.
> Agreed?
>
>
> tryin to keep it about the music,
> Zzb E Z7T
>
>
>
>>
>>> RDJ must be very proud... people are willing to fly in the face of
>> FACTS
>>> (re: racism and the drug war) in order to defend his integrity. Here's
>>> another statistic for ya-- this one totally unscientific and drawn from
>> my
>>> own experience; take it for what it is: 90% of white people I know
>> think
>>> the drug war is not racist, and about 90% of non-white people I know
>> think
>>> it is. 90%=/=100%-10%, 90%==large majority. Try this at home folks,
>> ask
>>> all your friends. What does this mean? I dunno, I just think it's a
>>> weird contradiction.
>>> As for sellout-hood, I think RDJ's beliefs have no bearing whatsoever
>> on
>>> the quality of his art. Nor does his selling a song for use in a
>>> commercial (if that's, in fact, what happened). An artist is an
>> artist.
>>> Look at Wagner... he was an anti-semite (Hitler's favorite composer), a
>>> misogynist, and an all-around asshole, but he wrote some of the most
>>> beautiful music ever invented. In my opinion. His attitudes make me
>>> nauseous but his music makes me want to cry, it's so good (np: "Good
>>> Friday Spell" from Parsifal, Richard Wagner). If RDJ believes that
>> drug
>>> use is evil and that the War on Drugs is a good way to end it, so what?
>>> I'll by his discs anyway, cuz The Man had to pay him with money that
>> could
>>> be going towards locking up some poor kid for 30 years who got caught
>> ONCE
>>> with some weed. Money to RDJ=RDJ keeps living=more AFX music, and
>> that's
>>> a good thing. He's only a sellout if he takes money for doing
>> something
>>> that's contrary to his beliefs, and even that wouldn't have any bearing
>> on
>>> the quality of his music, would it? Only if he was writing political
>>> propaganda music, I guess. Fuck "sellout." I can't wait till my
>> music's
>>> good enough to make me a sellout! Of course, I'd never try to sue
>>> Napster... that's just stupid.
>>>
>>> Zzb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Joshua Brown <josh@undertone.com> wrote:
>>>> man I hope he didn't approve this:
>>>>
>>>> I just heard one of his tracks used as the background for a pro-Drug
>> War
>>>>
>>>> commercial here in the US...
>>>>
>>>> This is really sad and I consider it a betrayal, as if my opinion
>> really
>>>>
>>>> mattered to him...
>>>>
>>>> But then again, artists being no-integrity loser hypocrites while at
>> the
>>>>
>>>> same time being musical prodigies seems to be the norm...
>>>>
>>>> Now he's in the same bin as Metallica in my mind....
>>>>
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