--- Christopher Dilkus <cpdilkus@snip.net> wrote:
quoted 8 lines Does this mean Amon Tobin has to drink Coke and drive whateverthefuck
> Does this mean Amon Tobin has to drink Coke and drive whateverthefuck
> kind
> of car that was in the commercial? Wow, the Beatles must have worn
> Nike's
> ('cept Lennon, he was dead) cause they let Nike used Revolution in a
> commercial...
>
> Dil
Oh antagonistic yet musically appreciative soul-brother of mine,
I think we agree in spirit but I'm sure you missed my point. Cars and
shoes are not necessarily ideas or forces of politics, and it can safely
be said, I think, that one does not agree or disagree with shoes on a
fundamentally philosophical level if one has already chosen to be a
popular mainstream musician.
The WoD is a different matter. It is ALL about ideas, Theirs vs. Mine.
*My idea is that it is a case of the medicine being worse than the
disease: drug addiction can often be cured and bodies can usually heal,
but there is no known remedy for decades in prison without parole.
*Their idea is that druggies should go to jail and rot for their sins.
Give me crack over the misguided vengeance of the US government any day--
it's more hopeful. Clear philosophical differences here!
HOWEVER, as Atomly pointed out, RDJ might not have even known about the
whole thing until he recieved a check in the mail. I tried to lace my
post liberally with the word "if", but perhaps it was, however important,
overlooked.
My whole point was that
-RDJ is not necessarily a sellout because the music was in some commercial
-even IF he knew about it and agreed with the message of the commercial he
still isn't a sellout
-even IF he somehow is a sellout (whatever the hell a sellout is), it
doesn't mean his music suddenly sucks
-finally, to not buy Aphex Twin recordings because of this whole debacle
is absolutely ridiculous.
Agreed?
tryin to keep it about the music,
Zzb E Z7T
quoted 87 lines RDJ must be very proud... people are willing to fly in the face of
>
> >RDJ must be very proud... people are willing to fly in the face of
> FACTS
> >(re: racism and the drug war) in order to defend his integrity. Here's
> >another statistic for ya-- this one totally unscientific and drawn from
> my
> >own experience; take it for what it is: 90% of white people I know
> think
> >the drug war is not racist, and about 90% of non-white people I know
> think
> >it is. 90%=/=100%-10%, 90%==large majority. Try this at home folks,
> ask
> >all your friends. What does this mean? I dunno, I just think it's a
> >weird contradiction.
> >As for sellout-hood, I think RDJ's beliefs have no bearing whatsoever
> on
> >the quality of his art. Nor does his selling a song for use in a
> >commercial (if that's, in fact, what happened). An artist is an
> artist.
> >Look at Wagner... he was an anti-semite (Hitler's favorite composer), a
> >misogynist, and an all-around asshole, but he wrote some of the most
> >beautiful music ever invented. In my opinion. His attitudes make me
> >nauseous but his music makes me want to cry, it's so good (np: "Good
> >Friday Spell" from Parsifal, Richard Wagner). If RDJ believes that
> drug
> >use is evil and that the War on Drugs is a good way to end it, so what?
> >I'll by his discs anyway, cuz The Man had to pay him with money that
> could
> >be going towards locking up some poor kid for 30 years who got caught
> ONCE
> >with some weed. Money to RDJ=RDJ keeps living=more AFX music, and
> that's
> >a good thing. He's only a sellout if he takes money for doing
> something
> >that's contrary to his beliefs, and even that wouldn't have any bearing
> on
> >the quality of his music, would it? Only if he was writing political
> >propaganda music, I guess. Fuck "sellout." I can't wait till my
> music's
> >good enough to make me a sellout! Of course, I'd never try to sue
> >Napster... that's just stupid.
> >
> >Zzb
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Joshua Brown <josh@undertone.com> wrote:
> >> man I hope he didn't approve this:
> >>
> >> I just heard one of his tracks used as the background for a pro-Drug
> War
> >>
> >> commercial here in the US...
> >>
> >> This is really sad and I consider it a betrayal, as if my opinion
> really
> >>
> >> mattered to him...
> >>
> >> But then again, artists being no-integrity loser hypocrites while at
> the
> >>
> >> same time being musical prodigies seems to be the norm...
> >>
> >> Now he's in the same bin as Metallica in my mind....
> >>
> >>
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