On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:29:13 -0500 (CDT), Josh Davison wrote:
quoted 5 lines i don't much care for Puff Daddy or his technique but i don't think he
>i don't much care for Puff Daddy or his technique but i don't think he
>tries to pass off the tracks as his own work, i.e. he credits the original
>artists on the records (i mean if he didn't he'd get sued to hell and
>back!!) and he'd have to be stupid to think people arent' going to
>recognize hooks from Police or Led Zeppelin.
i know, i know. the personal side of me still finds it distasteful
to know there are people hearing his versions first and loving them,
only to discover later the influences and samples involved. like
that sample on Vibert's Big Soup which started this whole thread
quoted 2 lines It's more about a certain ethic in Hip Hop culture -- that of the name
>It's more about a certain ethic in Hip Hop culture -- that of the name
>check.
I totally agree. I love that. There's the other side of the coin,
though, of using the skills of others to bolster your own. I know
people who have heard those tracks and been like "i've heard that
tune before, this must be the thing i like" ... and don't think puffy
doesn't know this. using a cultural icon to further your own career
is not nice.
quoted 6 lines Recognize also that the art of sampling and beat-jacking comes from the
>Recognize also that the art of sampling and beat-jacking comes from the
>early days of hip hop when DJ's would create an entire track from using
>other artist's records, in real time on two turntables. This was not for
>lack of creativity, but for lack of funds and technology as many of the
>originators of hip hop did not have the cash resources to purchase "real
>instruments" and were inspired to make do with the tools at hand.
true that, and worth my respect.
good points all around :)
-adam
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