The beetles were the quintessential whiners of pop, in my humble opinion.
There is some fantastic stuff on Boku, but the talking/singing and sample
happiness just gets in the way. It ruined half the tracks for me. Kind of like
Horse Opera on planet-µ, it could have been a great record, but instead w/
it's misplaced and insistent silly samples, was just mediocre. I have to agree
about AFX. The thing about him is that he's always joking some what, even on
his darker tracks, so that a few vocals don't really change much. Still, I
think I would have preferred the milkman w/ out the vocals in the long run.
'Sucking the milkman's wife's tits', heartfelt? The thing about words is that
they are very loaded and bring into play an entirely different way of
listening to the music. The associations one makes while listening are very
different. I'm sure this would show up quite clearly w/ a brain scan for
instance. We are on more familiar ground with words, especially when we are
talking about music created with computers, where sonic novelty (I know the
word novelty carries both negative and positive connotations. In this case I
mean both.) is constantly making itself heard. I have nothing against words
and vocals in themselves. It's just that very few people have any thing to say
that's worth listening to. AFX and Bogdan do have something to "say"
musically, I think maybe they don't have enough faith in the worth of the
music itself, so that they put on the "fuck you, I'm just fucking around"
facade as a defense. You can't really be criticized if you're joking, because
"it's just a joke man".
Christophe
alan r lucas wrote:
quoted 28 lines no way. milkman was perfect. the vocals weren't whiney at all. just> no way. milkman was perfect. the vocals weren't whiney at all. just
> sincere and heartfelt. well, that might be a stretch, but they weren't
> whiney, anyway. same with beetles. and in both cases, the music didn't
> suffer because of them. the music for milkman is great stuff!
>
> alan!
>
> np:acceleradeck:narcoticbeats
>
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Paul Robinson wrote:
>
> > Some great percussion programming going on on Samurai, but yeah, that
> > fucking whining! I think Aphex would have pulled it off better, RDJ
> > integrates vocals samples really well in just about everything I think,
> > hmmm, bar that Milkman song... do you think Aphex lost it there? I mean,
> > proper lost it? :-)
> >
> >
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